How can I use 4, 4, and 4 to result in the number 31?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenge of using three instances of the number 4 to achieve the result of 31 through various mathematical operations. Participants explore different methods, including functions and creative interpretations of the problem.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the hyperbolic cosine function, stating that cosh(4) + 4 equals 31.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the term "cosh" and seeks clarification.
  • A later reply explains the hyperbolic cosine function and its calculation, noting that cosh(4) is approximately 27.308.
  • Participants discuss how to compute the hyperbolic cosine on a calculator, with specific instructions for using a TI-85 calculator.
  • One participant proposes a solution using exponentiation, claiming that 4^0 + 4^0 + 4^0 equals 31, although they note that this technically does not use the number 4.
  • Another participant presents a solution involving the expression 4^{4-\sqrt{4}} = 31, humorously noting it is in base 5.
  • One participant offers a more abstract approach involving an integral and the floor function, but later retracts this suggestion, expressing frustration with their calculator.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method to achieve the result of 31 using three 4's. Multiple competing views and approaches are presented, with some participants questioning the validity of certain methods.

Contextual Notes

Some mathematical expressions and functions mentioned may depend on specific interpretations or calculator capabilities, which are not universally applicable. The discussion includes playful and speculative contributions that may not adhere strictly to the original problem constraints.

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How can I use 4, 4, and 4 to result in the number 31? You can perform any operation the 4's, but you can only use three 4's.
 
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bah! I can do it with only 2 4's:

[cosh(4) + 4] = 31
 
what do u mean by cosh.. i didn't understand the h?
 
You are required to use all three of the 4's. I should have been more specific...sorry.
 
AI,

JCSD used the Hyperbolic Cosine function.

The cosh function operates element-wise on arrays. The function's domains and ranges include complex values. All angles are in radians.

Y = cosh(X) returns the hyperbolic cosine for each element of X.

Now, cosh 4 = 27.308
 
how can we do it on a calculator.. i mean the cosh.. or does it have any formula?
 
[tex]\cosh x = \frac {e^x + e^{-x}}{2}[/tex]
 
I have a TI-85. On it you select 2nd, Math. Next you press F4 for the HYP menu. Then you choose the type of hyperbolic function you want to use.
 
turkldo said:
I have a TI-85. On it you select 2nd, Math. Next you press F4 for the HYP menu. Then you choose the type of hyperbolic function you want to use.

Or you could just type in (e^x + e^-x)/2
 
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4^0 + 4^0 ... + 4^0 = 31

Technically I didn't use any four's since it is exponent 0.

It is possible I know that.

You have many options to work with.
 
  • #11
Is this a brain teaser or a question you found in a mathematics textbook? :smile:
 
  • #12
[tex]4^{4-\sqrt 4} = 31[/tex]

... base 5! :-)
 
  • #13
Oooh. Does this count?

[tex] {\lfloor}\int_{4}^{4+4} cosh (\theta + \theta + \theta){\rfloor}[/tex]
 
  • #14
oh, ignore my last post. bah. bad calculator! bad bad!
 

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