How do you solve for cos2x = 2 cosx sinx?

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation cos(2x) = 2cos(x)sin(x), exploring various methods and transformations to find the values of x that satisfy this equation. Participants engage in mathematical reasoning, providing insights into trigonometric identities and the implications of the equation.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest using the identity 2cos(x)sin(x) = sin(2x) to simplify the equation.
  • There is a distinction made between the original equation and the identity, with some participants noting that cos(2x) = 2cos(x)sin(x) is not an identity.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the transformation leading to cos(2x) = sin(2x) and seeks clarification.
  • Participants discuss the implications of solving tan(2x) = 1, leading to multiple angles being derived.
  • There is a focus on finding specific angles within the range of 0 to 360 degrees, with various values of n being considered.
  • Some participants clarify the process of deriving angles from the tangent function and the reasoning behind obtaining four distinct solutions instead of two.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods to approach the problem, but there are varying interpretations of the transformations and the implications of the identities used. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of certain steps and the reasoning behind the number of solutions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the validity of dividing by cos(2x) and the implications of doing so. There are also discussions about the preferred format for presenting solutions, indicating a dependence on individual instructor preferences.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying trigonometric equations, individuals seeking to understand the application of trigonometric identities, and those interested in problem-solving techniques in mathematics may find this discussion beneficial.

Maria
Can someone please walk me trough this one:
cos2x = 2 cosx sinx :rolleyes:
 
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You are to find those x for which the equation holds (right?)
What have you thought of thus far?
 
you might use the fact that 2cos(x)sin(x) = sin(2x) to transform the equation into something easier.
 
mathwonk said:
you might use the fact that 2cos(x)sin(x) = sin(2x) to transform the equation into something easier.
I would have gotten to that eventually.. :wink:
Seems like I scared the poster off instead by my questioning..
 
Maria, look closely at what Mathwonk said: your equation has cos(2x)= 2cos(x)sin(x)and you are to find the values of x for which it is true. His equation has sin(2x)= 2cos(x)sin(x) and is an IDENTITY: it is true for all values of x.
 
I need to find 4 angles..
I have found that cos2x = sin2x
correct?
But I am not sure why?
 
Oh sorry.. Mathwonk..I understand.. stupid me..
 
I think i`ve got it now
cos2x = 2cosx sonx
cos2x = sin2x
cosx
sinx = 1
tanx = 1

and i get 4 angles because og tan = 1 ?
 
You do have cos2x=sin2x
Dividing with cos2x, you get:
tan2x=1.
 
  • #10
of course.. forgot..
then i get
x =22,5
this is one angle..
 
  • #11
Certainly; how would you find the others (when restricting 0<x<360)
 
  • #12
180+22,5 = 202,5

but how about the last two?
 
  • #13
Now, remember that tan(y+180)=tan(y)
Hence, for any integer n, we have:
tan(y+180n)=tan(y)
Set y=45 (i.e, so that tan(y)=1), we may find solutions 0<x360
by looking at various choices n in the equation:
2x=45+180n
 
  • #14
So I can for instance set n=1,but thenI get x = 113
am I right?
 
  • #15
No, you get for n=1: x=22.5+90=112.5
 
  • #16
and for n=-1 I get 292,5
 
  • #17
How du you get from tan(y+180n)=tan(y) to the equation:
2x=45+180n?
 
  • #18
Well, you're seeking x-solutions satisfying
tan(2x)=1, or hence:
tan(2x)=tan(45+180n) for some n
By setting 2x=45+180n, you're guaranteed the last equation is fulfilled.
 
  • #19
so I don`t need tan since I have it on both sides?
 
  • #20
I hope you have accepted that the x-solutions you're looking for must satisfy:
tan(2x)=tan(45+180n), where n is some integer (We call this equation (e)).
Now, to guarantee that (e) holds , requiring 2x=45+180n is evidently enough, since the lefthand side term of (e) (that is tan(2x)) becomes necessarily equal to the righthandside term in (e) (that is tan(45+180n)).
 
  • #21
I understand that both sides have to be equal. But is it ok if I write

tan(2x) = tan(45+180n)
2x = 45+180n
I don`t need to write anything else in between?
 
  • #22
Ok, I see what your getting at (I can be a bit slow..:redface:)
Yes, I would say you could do that.
 
  • #23
If I can do that, then I think I get it..
If I set n=1 I get x=112,5 and
if I set n=-1 I get 2x= -135
x = -67,5 which give an angle 360-67,5 = 292,5
 
  • #24
In order to get the 4 values of x lying between 0 and 360, you should use
n=0,1,2,3
 
  • #25
you`re right...
I can write it like this:
cos2x = 2cosx sinx
cos2x = sin2x

tan 2x = 1
which gives

tan(2x) = tan(45+180n)
2x = 45+180n

I use n=0,1,2,3 and get the angles
x = 22,5 ^ 112,5 ^ 202,5 ^ 292,5

forgot something?
 
  • #26
When I see your setup, I think you might simplify as follows:
...
tan(2x)=1
which implies:
2x=45+180n, for some integer n
...
 
  • #27
I see.
but everything else is ok?
 
  • #28
go straig like this is ok 2
cos2x=sin2x;
<=>sin2x-cos2x=0;
<=>sin(2x-Pi/4)=0;
=>2x-Pi/4=k2Pi (k=integer);
chose 4 values of k to get x
your loking for x, so dividing both equation by cos like what you have did isn't good practise. :biggrin:
 
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  • #29
Sure.
It depends a bit on how your teacher likes your answers.
For example, you might insert short explanations between your steps, for example:
...
cos(2x)=sin(2x)
Dividing this equation with cos(2x), we get:
tan(2x)=1
 
  • #30
well, she doesn`t like short answers, but not to long either
 

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