How to solve a y'=3y+15 initial value problem?

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The discussion revolves around solving the initial value problem for the differential equation y' = 3y + 15, including finding a general solution and applying the initial condition y(0) = -1. Participants explore various methods for solving the equation, including separation of variables and substitution techniques.

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  • One participant suggests a solution form y = 3/2x^2 + 15y + C, questioning its validity.
  • Another participant proposes separating variables to solve the equation, leading to the integral form dy/(y+15) = dx.
  • A hint is provided to rewrite the equation as y' = 3(y + 5) and to introduce a new function v(x) = y(x) + 5, transforming the equation into v' = 3v.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in solving the problem and requests a complete solution.
  • A solution is presented as v(x) = Ke^(3x), leading to y(x) = Ke^(3x) - 5, with K to be determined by the initial condition.
  • Another participant provides a detailed integration approach, resulting in y = e^(x + 2 ln 2 + 1) - 5, but is corrected by a later reply regarding an exponentiation oversight.
  • A participant notes the initial condition y(0) = -1, clarifying the context of the problem.
  • Another problem is introduced involving a different differential equation, y' - 4y = -10sin(2x), suggesting a solution form involving sine and cosine functions.
  • A final suggestion is made to substitute y and y' into the equation to derive two equations for determining coefficients A and B.

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The discussion includes multiple competing views and methods for solving the initial value problem, with no consensus reached on a single solution approach. Participants express varying levels of understanding and correctness in their proposed solutions.

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Some participants' solutions involve assumptions about integration constants and transformations that may not be fully justified or resolved. The initial condition's application is also a point of contention.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals seeking to understand methods for solving first-order linear differential equations, particularly those involving initial value problems.

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Find all solutions to

y'= 3y + 15

and solve the initial value problem-
y'=3y+15
y(0)= -1

so would it be y= 3/2x^2 + 15y + C?

if not please share what would it be!
 
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just separate variables. i.e. dy/dx = 3y + 15, so

dy = (3y+15)dx
so

dy/(y+15) = dx. now integrate both sides. and keep the constant of integration on one side.
 
Hint:
Rewrite your differential equation as:
y'=3(y+5)
Introduce the new function v(x)=y(x)+5, which implies:
v'(x)=y'(x), and your differential equation in y now reads in v:
v'=3v
Can you take solve it on your own from here?
 
can someone please solve it entirely, i don't get it at all.
 
Since
v'=3v, clearly
v(x)=Ke^{3x} for some K.
Hence, y(x)=Ke^{3x}-5
K can be determined by the initial condition.
 
[tex]dy/dx = 3y+15[/tex]
[tex]1/(3y+15) dy = dx[/tex]
[tex]\int dy/(3y+15) = \int dx[/tex]

u = 3y + 15 1/3 du = dy

[tex]1/3 \int du /(u)= x + c_1[/tex]
[tex]1/3(ln(u)+c_2) = x + c_1[/tex]
[tex]1/3 (ln (3y + 15) + c_2) = x + c_1[/tex]
[tex]ln (3y + 15) = 3(x + c_3)[/tex]
[tex]y + 5 = e^{x + c}[/tex]

[tex]y = (e^{x + c}) - 5[/tex]

[tex]-1 = e^{-1 + c} - 5[/tex]
[tex]-1+5 = 4 = e^{-1}e^{c}[/tex]
[tex]4e = e^c[/tex]
[tex]ln(4e) = c[/tex]
[tex]2 ln(2) + 1 = c[/tex]

[tex]y = e^{x + 2 ln 2 + 1} - 5[/tex]
 
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Phymath:
You've forgotten to exponentiate your "3" in front of (x+c3)..
 
the x value is 0 guys, not -1, but thanks for the help, i appreciate it.

I have another problem that i tried solving in the dy/dx way, but it gets a bit too complex.

Find the solutions of the differential equation

y'-4y=-10sin(2x)

which has the form y= Asin(2x)+Bcos(2x)
 
Just plug in for y' and y; you'll get 2 equations by which you may determine A and B
 

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