Labeling Boxes: Apples, Oranges, or Both?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a logic puzzle involving three boxes labeled "Apples", "Oranges", and "Apples and Oranges", where each label is incorrect. Participants explore how to correctly label the boxes by selecting one fruit from one box, adhering to the constraints of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants clarify the rules of the puzzle, emphasizing that only one fruit can be selected from one box.
  • Warren presents a systematic approach to the problem, outlining the possible labeling combinations and the implications of drawing from the box labeled "Apples and Oranges".
  • A later reply suggests a method for determining the correct labels based on the fruit drawn from the "Apples and Oranges" box, detailing the outcomes for both an apple and an orange being drawn.
  • Participants acknowledge the contributions of others, with one expressing appreciation for the problem-solving efforts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

While there is a general agreement on the approach to solving the puzzle, the discussion includes multiple perspectives on the reasoning and steps involved, indicating that some aspects remain contested or open to interpretation.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on the assumption that all initial labels are incorrect, and the discussion hinges on the logical deductions that follow from this premise. The specific mathematical reasoning and assumptions about the labeling possibilities are not fully resolved.

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Three boxes are labeled "Apples", "Oranges", and "Apples and Oranges". Each label is incorrect. You may only select one fruit from one box. (No feeling around or peeking permitted.) How can you label each one correctly?

I had to stare at this problem for quite a while. I will only state this: READ THE PROBLEM CAREFULLY.

Good luck.
 
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You may only select a single fruit from one box?

- Warren
 
You may only select a single fruit from one box?

Yes, Warren. You may select only one single fruit from one box.
 
There are six labelling possibilities, four of which are not allowed if all three labels are initially incorrect. The two remaining possibilites are:

Code:
    Actual    |
   Contents   |   Labelling 1       Labelling 2  
 -------------|---------------------------------
      A       |       AO                 O      
      O       |       A                  AO    
      AO      |       O                  A

Notice that since the labels must be wrong, the box labelled AO must contain only apples or only oranges, but not both.

Go draw from the box labelled AO. If you draw an apple, you fix labelling scheme 1, and you know the contents of the other two boxes. If you draw an orange, you fix labelling scheme 2, and know the contents of the other two boxes.

- Warren
 
Chroot, shouldn't you be working or something ?
 
bjr_jyd15 said:
Three boxes are labeled "Apples", "Oranges", and "Apples and Oranges". Each label is incorrect. You may only select one fruit from one box. (No feeling around or peeking permitted.) How can you label each one correctly?

I had to stare at this problem for quite a while. I will only state this: READ THE PROBLEM CAREFULLY.

Good luck.

Answer in white:

Pull one fruit from the Apples and Oranges box.

1) If an apple, the correct label must be Apples. That leaves two possible label combinations for the other two boxes. One of combinations would put Oranges on the original Oranges box, which cannot be. The Oranges box must be Apples and Oranges. That leaves the Oranges label for the original Apple box.

2) If an orange, the correct label must be Oranges. Of the two remaining labels, the original Apple box can't be Apples, so it is Apples and Oranges, leaving Apples for the original Orange box.

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correct

Nice job to BobG and Warren. I'll post some more good ones in the future. :smile:
 

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