Solve Probability Problem: A, B, C Coin Throw

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The discussion revolves around a probability problem involving three individuals, A, B, and C, who take turns throwing a coin until one of them gets heads. Participants are analyzing the sample space, calculating probabilities for each player winning, and discussing the independence of events in the context of probability theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a sample space of {H, TH, TTH, TTT}, while another suggests it is countably infinite due to the possibility of repeated trials if all players initially fail.
  • One participant calculates the probability of A winning as P(A) = 1/2 + 1/16 + 1/128 + ... and concludes it equals 4/7.
  • Another participant calculates the probability of B winning as P(B) = 1/4 + 1/32 + ... leading to a conclusion of 2/7.
  • There is a claim that A and B are mutually exclusive events, leading to the calculation of P(A union B) = P(A) + P(B) = 6/7.
  • One participant questions the reasoning behind multiplying probabilities for successive rounds, seeking clarification on the independence of events.
  • Another participant explains that the independence of events means the outcome of one player's toss does not affect the others.

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Participants express differing views on the sample space, with one suggesting it is finite and another proposing it is infinite. There is also a lack of consensus on the exact probabilities calculated, as different methods yield varying results.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations depend on assumptions about the independence of events and the structure of the sample space, which remain unresolved. The discussion includes various interpretations of the problem and its requirements.

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Individuals interested in probability theory, particularly in understanding concepts of independence, sample spaces, and event outcomes in sequential trials.

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Hi..

I have an exercise and i want to know if i solved it correct.Can you help?

Three people A,B,C throw a coin (First is A,second comes B and finally C)
The first that will bring head wins and the game stops.

The exercise wants:
a)The sample space
b)Determinate the following events in the sample space
i)A={A WINS}
ii)B={B WINS)
iii)(A union B)complement
H:HEAD T:TAIL
a)sample space{H,TH,TTH,TTT}
bi)P(A)={H}=1/2
bii)P(B)={TH}=P(Acomplement intersection B)=1/4
biii)(A union B)complement=Acomplement intersection Bcomplement=
{TTH,TTH}=1/4

is it corrent?
 
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a) I think the sample space has countable infinite number of elements.
what if all A, B, C fail in their first trials? They again start with A. So ur sample space is extended to TTTH, TTTTH...etc,

bi)A can win in the first round with prob 1/2
or in the 2nd round with prob 1/16
or in the 3rd round with prob 1/128
.
.
.

Therefore P(A) = 1/2+1/16+1/128+... = 4/7

bii) Smilarly P(B) = 1/4+1/32+...= 2/7
biii)A and B r mutually exclusive. P(A union B) = P(A) + P(B) = 6/7

P(A union B)complement = 1-6/7 = 1/7.

Aliter: P(A union B) means either A wins or B wins. So P(A union B)complement means neither A nor B wins ==> P(C wins) = 1/7(find out as above).
 
You have right.
But can you explain me how did you find
"or in the 2nd round with prob 1/16
or in the 3rd round with prob 1/128"

i know that is:1/2*1/2*1/2*1/2

but can you explain me why we multiply the probablilities please?
 
because they r independent. that means whether B gets a H/T doesn't depend on the previous outcome(A' toss). similarly with C and so on...
 

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