Calculating Kinetic Friction Using F=ma and X_0*K

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The problem involves a block of mass M that is launched from a compressed spring on a horizontal table and comes to a stop after sliding a distance L. The goal is to calculate the coefficient of kinetic friction in terms of the mass, distance, spring constant, and initial compression of the spring.

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  • The original poster expresses confusion about how to relate the force exerted by the spring to the initial velocity of the block. They mention using Newton's second law and the equation for kinetic friction but are unsure how to proceed without knowing the initial velocity.
  • Participants suggest using energy conservation principles and the work done by friction to derive a relationship between the variables involved.
  • One participant outlines a derivation involving Newton's second law and energy equations, leading to a formula for the coefficient of kinetic friction.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to relate various forces and energy forms without explicit values for certain variables, such as initial velocity. The original poster's uncertainty about the initial conditions and how they affect the calculations is evident.

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a block of mass M is held on a horizontal table against a compressed horizontal (massless) spring. When released from rest, the block is launched along the tabletop and eventually comes to a stop after sliding a total distance L. The initial spring compression is x_0 and the spring constant is K. Calculate the coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and the ttable top in terms of the variables M, L, K, and X_0.

Im lost. I know F=ma. I know x_0*k is the force the spring is dishing out. I know that the frictional force is Mu*M*g. I tried to put it together with v^2 = v_0^2 + 2aD. The problem with that is I don't know the initial velocity.

How do I use X_0*K to calculate velocity?
 
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Hint:
Use an equation relating the mechanical energy of the system at 2 different places and the work of friction done over that interval.
 
Could you walk me through that . . . I'm still lost.
 
OK, let's start with Newton's 2.law, and derive the energy equation.
1.Newton's 2.law
[tex]-Kx-\mu{Mg}=Ma[/tex]
Here, "x" is the compressed length of the spring, and
[tex]x(t=0)=-x_{0}[/tex]
and
[tex]x(t=t_{L})=L-x_{0}[/tex]
([tex]t_{L}[/tex] is the time when the system stops; when a distance L has been traversed)
[tex]-\mu{Mg}[/tex] is the frictional force, whereas a is the acceleration of the system.

2. Derivation of energy equation
We a) multiply the above equation with velocity v, and
b) integrate from t=0 to [tex]t=t_{L}[/tex]:
a) [tex]-Kxv-\mu{Mg}v=Mav[/tex]
b) [tex]-\frac{K}{2}x(t=t_{L})^{2}+\frac{K}{2}x(t=0)^{2}-\mu{MgL}=\frac{M}{2}(v(t=t_{L})^{2}-v(t=0)^{2})[/tex]
Or, by recognizing:
[tex]v(t=0)=v(t=t_{L})=0[/tex]
we gain by rearranging:
[tex]\mu{MgL}=\frac{K}{2}(x_{0}^{2}-(L-x_{0})^{2})=\frac{KL}{2}(2x_{0}-L)[/tex]
Or:
[tex]\mu=\frac{K(x_{0}-\frac{L}{2})}{Mg}[/tex]
 
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