Solving Integration Problem: Substitution for x√(x-1)

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The discussion revolves around an integral involving the expression x√(x-1), specifically the integral ∫ from 1 to 2 of x√(x-1) dx. Participants are exploring methods of integration by substitution.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants suggest various substitution methods, including a transformation involving t = √(x-1) and another approach that separates the integral into two parts. There is also mention of multiplying by 1 in a creative way to facilitate substitution.

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The discussion includes attempts to verify the correctness of the integration steps taken by one participant. Some guidance has been offered regarding the evaluation of specific integrals, and there is an acknowledgment of earlier mistakes in calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the methods they can use or the depth of their exploration. There is a focus on ensuring the accuracy of calculations and understanding the substitution process.

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Hello everybody
I'm working on a section for integration by substitution and I came across an integral that I don't know how to do a substitution for

[tex]\int_{1}^{2} x\sqrt{x-1} \,dx[/tex]

How can I do this problem?
 
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This isn't simple substitution. You can multiply the equation fancily by 1 and then use substitution. Tell me if this is too vague.

Edit: It seems someone else found it just by substitution. Oh well, I like my way better :p
 
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tandoorichicken said:
Hello everybody
I'm working on a section for integration by substitution and I came across an integral that I don't know how to do a substitution for

[tex]\int_{1}^{2} x\sqrt{x-1} \,dx[/tex]

How can I do this problem?

[tex]t=\sqrt{x-1}[/tex]
[tex]x=t^2+1[/tex]
[tex]dx=2tdt[/tex]

Your integral is:

[tex]\int_{make it you}^{make it you} (t^2+1)t^2 2dt[/tex]
 
Another choice is:
[tex]\int_{1}^{2}x\sqrt{x-1}dx=\int_{1}^{2}(x-1)^{\frac{3}{2}}dx+\int_{1}^{2}\sqrt{x-1}dx[/tex]
 
Thanks, everybody. Would you all care to check my work please?

[itex]\int_{1}^{2} x\sqrt{x-1} \,dx[/itex]
[itex]u = \sqrt{x-1}[/itex]
[itex]x = u^2 + 1[/itex]
[itex]\,du = \frac{1}{2\sqrt{x-1}}\,dx[/itex]
[itex]\,dx = 2\sqrt{x-1} \,du = 2u\,du[/itex]
[itex]\int_{1}^{2} x\sqrt{x-1} \,dx = \int_{0}^{1} (u^2 + 1)u 2u\,du = \int_{0}^{1} 2u^4 + 2u^2 \,du = 2\int_{0}^{1} u^4 \,du + 2\int_{0}^{1} u^2 \,du = 2 + 2 = 4[/itex]

Is this correct?
 
Do the following integrals once more:
[tex]\int_{0}^{1}u^{4}du,\int_{0}^{1}u^{2}du[/tex]
 
Oh, whoops. Thanks for pointing that out.

[tex]\int u^4 \,du = \frac{u^5}{5} , \int u^2 \,du = \frac{u^3}{3}[/tex]
So then it becomes
[tex]\frac{2}{5} + \frac{2}{3} = \frac{16}{15}[/tex]
 
Seems much better! :biggrin:
 

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