How to Calculate Mass with Given Force and Acceleration?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the mass of a bowling ball given two forces and their corresponding accelerations. The forces are 82N and 92N, with the accelerations being 'a' and '2a', respectively. Participants are exploring the implications of these forces and the role of gravity in the calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss setting up equations based on Newton's laws to relate force, mass, and acceleration. Questions arise about the completeness of the problem, particularly regarding the effects of gravity and the assumptions made about the forces acting on the bowling ball.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to set up equations to solve for mass and acceleration. There is recognition of potential issues with the original problem setup, and some participants are exploring how to express one variable in terms of another to facilitate solving the equations.

Contextual Notes

There is an acknowledgment that the problem may be ill-posed due to missing information, particularly regarding the gravitational force acting on the bowling ball. Participants are considering how this affects the calculations and the assumptions involved.

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i was going over a problem i did in class. the force on a bowling ball is 82N. the acceleration is a. then there is another force on the ball that is 92N, the acceleration now is 2a. i don't remember how but i got that the mass was 7.34kg. can someone tell me how to calculate the mass?
 
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I think you left a very important element out of the problem. The bowling ball is being accelerated upward against gravity. Just sum the forces acting on the ball in both cases and use Newton's Law to get the correct answer (which you have, btw!).
 
[itex]\sum \vec F=m\vec a[/itex]

Set up two equation and solve for the two unknowns. You are given two forces and you have one acceleration unknown and one mass unknown. Two problems, two unknowns--its solvable.
 
faust9 said:
[itex]\sum \vec F=m\vec a[/itex]

Set up two equation and solve for the two unknowns. You are given two forces and you have one acceleration unknown and one mass unknown. Two problems, two unknowns--its solvable.

Not exactly. The original problem is ill-posed and you won't find a solution. Physically, if you double the force you will double the acceleration which tells you something must be missing from the original problem.
 
Ahhh, good catch.
 
do you mean like this?

sumF = 82N - mg = ma
sumF = 92N - mg = m(2a)

and then set the masses equal to each other?

m = 82N/(9.8N/kg + a) = 92N/(9.8N/kg + 2a)
 
Yes, you set up the equations correctly and that's one way to solve them.
 
how would i find the mass if i don't know the acceleration?
 
You have two equations and two unknowns and you can find both of the unknowns, mass and acceleration. Hint: Solve one of the two equations for a (acceleration) in terms of m (mass) then substitute this into the other equation.
 
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oh ok i got it. thank you very much for your help!
 

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