How Do Different Spring Constants Affect Oscillation Frequency?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of different spring constants on the oscillation frequency of a mass-spring system. The original poster presents a scenario involving two springs with specified constants and a mass, seeking assistance in determining the frequency of oscillation.

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  • Participants explore the forces acting on the mass when displaced and question how to combine the effects of the two springs. There is a discussion about the correct application of spring constants and the resulting net force on the mass.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to analyze the forces involved, while others have raised questions about the assumptions made regarding the spring displacements and the resulting calculations. Multiple interpretations of the setup are being explored.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the definitions of displacement and the forces from each spring, with some participants questioning the initial assumptions regarding the configuration of the springs and their contributions to the total force.

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suppose that the two springs have different spring constants k1=280 N/m and k2=260 N/m and the mass of the object is m=14 kg. Find the frequency of oscillation of the block in Hz.

http://www.physics.umd.edu/rgroups/ripe/perg/abp/think/oscil/mos.htm
the first picture on this site is what the problem looks like. Its a mass between two springs that are attached to walls.

i know that angular frequency equals the square root of k/m. but i don't know how to do it when there are two springs involved. Please help Asap. Thanks so much
 
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Let your origin be at where both springs has their rest length.
If you displace the box a distance "x", what are the forces (with direction) acting on it from either box?
 
arildno said:
Welcome to PF!
Let your origin be at where both springs has their rest length.
If you displace the box a distance "x", what are the forces (with direction) acting on it from either box?

So if i have F1= -kx = -280x and F2= 260x do i then add them ? if so i would get Ft= -20x ...then should i use -20 as my value for k? and substitute it into the equation that i said before...where frequency equals the square root of (k divided by m)?

THanks so much for your help by the way...this forum is a wonderful idea and i am definitely going to spread the word!
 
No that is incorrect!
Let the rest lengths be [tex]L_{1},L_{2}[/tex]
For clarity, "x" be a positive number.
Then, the new length of spring 1 is [tex]L_{1}+x[/tex]
Hence, [tex]F_{1}=-k(L_{1}+x-L_{1})=-kx[/tex]
Let's look at spring 2:
If spring 2 had been lengthened by a positive amount "y" (dragged out to the left), then, the force from it would drag the block to the right (the positive direction).
Hence, for positive displacement of spring 2 "y", [tex]F_{2}=2ky[/tex]
Now, setting y=-x (spring 2 is actually shortened), we get:
[tex]F_{2}=-2kx[/tex]

Hence, total force F on block is:
[tex]F=F_{1}+F_{2}=-3kx[/tex]
 

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