Solving Integral Problem with 2*e^sqrt(x)-2*e - Help Ylle

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The discussion revolves around solving a specific integral involving the expression \( e^{\sqrt{x}} \). Participants are exploring different methods of integration and expressing difficulties in arriving at a consistent solution. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and problem-solving techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • Ylle presents an integral and expresses frustration over not matching the result provided by a program, which is \( 2e^{\sqrt{x}} - 2e \).
  • One participant suggests a substitution method, letting \( u = \sqrt{x} \), and provides a transformation of the integral into a simpler form, \( \int e^{u} \cdot 2 du \).
  • Another participant expresses confusion over the substitution method used and highlights the importance of clearly stating the relationship between variables and ensuring proper notation, such as including \( dt \) in the integral.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the method of solving the integral, with differing approaches and some confusion regarding the substitutions made. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct technique to apply.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of missing assumptions regarding the substitutions and transformations made in the integral. Participants have not fully clarified the relationships between the variables involved, which may contribute to the confusion.

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I have this integral: (The first is the original, the one I need to solve)
http://www.absinthen.dk/math.jpg

Well, I have a program that can calculate it for me, but I need to do it in hand - but even though I keep trying, I just don't end up with the result my program says it is, which is:
2*e^sqrt(x)-2*e

I've been trying everything, but I going crazy very soon :cry:

I really hope you guys can give me a hint, of what may be wrong.


- Ylle
 
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I don't understand exactly what it is you've done to the integral, but...

[tex]\int e^{\sqrt{x}} x^{-1/2} dx = \int e^{\sqrt{x}} \cdot \frac{dx}{\sqrt{x}}[/tex]

Let [tex]u = \sqrt{x}[/tex]. Then [tex]\frac{du}{dx} = \frac{1}{2} \cdot \frac{1}{\sqrt{x}}[/tex], so 2du = 1/sqrt(x) dx. The integral turns in to:

[tex]\int e^{u} \cdot 2 du[/tex]

After finding an antiderivative, putting in the limits should be easy... ;)
 
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hehe, and i don't understand what you are doing :D
I don't think they teach us to solve the integral the same way, as they do to you :(

But another example:
http://www.absinthen.dk/math2.jpg

This integral is solved correctly this time, and I've done the same thing as I would do in the one I gave you. But in the one I gave you, it just won't do as I want it to do :confused:
 
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I really doubt that anyone "taught" you to replace "x" with "t" without saying what in the world the relationship between x and t is!

I also note that when you make the substitution, there is no "dt" in the integral. You are not being sufficiently careful- that may be where your problem is.

State clearly what substitution you are making and how you are replacing dx.
 
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