What is the Charge Change in Beta Decay of Sodium to Magnesium?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the charge change during the beta decay of sodium-24 to magnesium-24, specifically addressing the implications of neutron conversion to proton and the overall charge of the resulting magnesium nuclide.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the decay equation and questions the overall charge of magnesium after the decay, noting that a neutron converts to a proton, which suggests a net charge increase.
  • Another participant points out that the decay equation should include an antineutrino and clarifies that the notation for magnesium refers to the nucleus, not the atom as a whole, implying that the charge context is understood.
  • A later reply expresses satisfaction with the clarification, indicating no further confusion on the matter.
  • Another participant discusses the energy dynamics of the emitted electron and neutrino, stating that while the electron may escape the atom, it does not affect the decay process itself.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the understanding of the decay process and the notation used, but there are nuances regarding the charge implications and the role of emitted particles that remain open for discussion.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the context of charge notation and the behavior of emitted particles that are not fully explored, particularly in relation to the environment of the newly formed magnesium atom.

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Okay, so one of my hall mates across the way asked this question about his Chemistry, and then I realized that I wasn't too sure why it was myself, so I figured I'd pass this on to you.

Take the decay equation

[tex] {}^{24}_{11}Na \rightarrow {}^{24}_{12}Mg + {}^0_{-1}\beta[/tex]

His question pertained to the overall charge of the nuclide in question. He mentioned that since a neutron is converting to a proton, there should be a net charge of +1 now on the Magnesium (since the [itex]{}^{0}_{-1}\beta[/itex] comes from the conversion of a netron into the proton, that doesn't get factored in). Is it just that the charge is irrelevant to the decay that it's not bothered to be included?
 
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A minor point is that the right side should also have an antineutrino. Physically speaking, the newly formed magnesium atom is likely to be a +1 ion for a while, the amount of time it takes to neutralize depending on its environment. But I think when they write [tex]{}^{24}_{12}Mg[/tex], the context is understood to be the nucleus itself, not the atom as a whole.
 
Okay, that's what I figured, I was just wanting to make sure that there wasn't something I was missing. Thanks.
 
To anticipate a possible extension, the electron emitted by the nucleus usually has a high enough energy to escape the atom, although it's also possible for the neutrino to carry the lion's share of the energy released in the decay. But it's not really relevant; what happens in the electron shells has no impact on the decay process.
 

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