Simple square root factoring question

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The discussion revolves around the expression \(\sqrt{a^2 - a^2\sin^2{x}}\) and whether it simplifies to \(a\cos{x}\). Participants are exploring the implications of this simplification in the context of absolute values and the conditions under which it holds true.

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  • Participants discuss the correctness of the simplification and the conditions related to the signs of \(a\) and \(\cos{x}\). There is an exploration of the relationship between the square root and absolute values, as well as the implications for different ranges of \(x\).

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Some participants have acknowledged the correctness of the expression under certain conditions, while others have pointed out the need to consider sign implications. The conversation reflects a mix of agreement and clarification regarding the assumptions involved in the simplification.

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There is an emphasis on the conditions under which the simplification holds, particularly regarding the positivity of \(a\) and the angle \(x\). The discussion also highlights the importance of considering absolute values when dealing with square roots.

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Hi,

is [tex]\sqrt{a^2-a^2\sin^2{x}} = a\cos{x}?[/tex]

If not, what should it be? :confused:

Appreciate the help! :smile:
 
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That is correct.
 
Thank you for the help Sirus!
 
It is correct within a sign!
 
Tide said:
It is correct within a sign!

What do you mean?
 
Sirus said:
That is correct.

No, that is not quite correct if you think of how a secondary definition of the modulus (absolute value) follows from the square root of a square,

[tex]\sqrt{x^2} = \|x\|[/tex]

In your case

[tex]\sqrt{a^2-a^2\sin^2{x}} = a\cos{x}[/tex]

can be written if and only if a and cos(x) are both positive or both negative; before you brought them out of the square root sign, you had the intermediate step,

[tex]\sqrt{a^2-a^2\sin^2{x}} = \sqrt{a^2\cos^2{x}}[/tex]

so

[tex]\sqrt{a^2-a^2\sin^2{x}} = \sqrt{a^2\cos^2{x}} = \|a\cos x\|[/tex]

which should hold true anyway since the left hand side is the positive square root.

In general however, you can write it as a cos x if you have no major problems with the signs (you won't have any if theta lies between 0 and pi/2 and a > 0 for instance). But if you're proving something which involves this substitution, you had rather take it into account.

Cheers
Vivek
 
I stand corrected. I forgot about that.
 

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