Solving Questions on f(x) = x^2 + x and x/|x| at x=0

  • Context: Graduate 
  • Thread starter Thread starter BrendanM
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Couple
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around two mathematical questions: one concerning the function f(x) = x^2 + x and the area of triangles formed by tangent and normal lines at a specific point, and the other regarding the function f(x) = x/|x| at x = 0 and the existence of its derivative.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving the area of triangles formed by the tangent and normal lines to f(x) = x^2 + x, questioning whether a = 0 is the only solution.
  • The participant claims to have found two solutions, a = 0 and a = -1, and questions the correctness of their professor's assertion that a = 0 is the only value.
  • Another participant suggests drawing the function for question 2 to understand the behavior of f(x) = x/|x| at x = 0.
  • One participant emphasizes that a function must be continuous to be differentiable, implying this is relevant to the second question.
  • A later reply indicates that the original poster's professor acknowledged a mistake regarding the first question, suggesting that there may be multiple valid solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the first question, with one participant asserting that there are two valid solutions while the professor claimed only one. The second question remains unresolved, with participants discussing the conditions for differentiability without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the continuity requirement for differentiability, which may imply limitations in the analysis of the second question. The discussion also reflects uncertainty regarding the interpretation of the first question's requirements.

BrendanM
Messages
17
Reaction score
0
I kinda have a question and an answer check... well here's my check.

Let f(x) = x^2 + x. For any readl number a, let Ty be the y-intrecept of the tangent line to f(a), let Nx and Ny be, respectivly, the x-intercept and y-intercepts of the normal line to f(a). SHow that a = 0 is the only value for which the area of the triangle (0,Ny),(0,0),(Nx,0) is equal to the area of triangle (0,Ty),(0,0),(Nx,0).

to attack this problem i decided since the triangles both have side (0,0),(Nx,0) in common i could just find the equations of the tangent and normal line, find the intercepts of the tangent and normal and then set them equal in magnitude. i ended up with a^2 = a/(2a +1) + a^2 + a
when i solve i get x = 0, x=-1
it seems to work out when i plot the graphs for x = -1...
but in my question it says show that a = 0 is the only possible value, am i drawing it wrong or is my prof missing something? ty

question #2...

this should be an easy question...

f(x) = x/|x| at x = 0;

the derivative do not exist, explain why. There is a skip ?

Can the definitions be modified(slightly) so that the derviative does exist at this point, if so calc the derivative. if no explain why. i need help on this question :|
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Question 2:
Draw the function on a piece of paper, and you'll see.
 
If anyone can help I am in major need :|
 
BrendanM said:
If anyone can help I am in major need :|
A function has to be continuous before it can be differentiable!
 
yah felt kinda silly by asking for help on #2, well for anyone who was wondering...for #1 my prof was wrong. He said he made a mistake after i confronted him about the two values.. Oh well sounds good. ty everyone that helped
 
Isn't it great when showing your prof. that he also makes mistakes..:wink:
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
4K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K