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| Jan13-11, 07:32 AM | #1 |
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New approach to FLT Proof for prime powers of n
Dear all, here is the new approach how to prove the Fermats Last theorem for the prime powers of n. Thank you all that you have mentioned the Diophantine equations.
The proof has still one missing link. It should be proved that l is coprime to (c-b) and the same kind of proof should arise for (a+b) respectively. All in all its an interesting approach, cause it includes triangle rules and Diophantine equations. Please help me to improve this one. Sincerely, ABSTRACT: For the past few centuries, there was always doubt if the elegant solution to the Fermat¨s Last Theorem exists. Although proven in the 90s the proof itself did not answer the question whether there is more simple solution to this problem. The following proof is the proof to Fermat¨s Last theorem for the prime powers of n. It contains applying triangle rules, coprimety and they both result in 2 unsolvable Diophantine equations. 1 for general case and the other for c – b = 1. THE PROOF: Let us suppose the solution to the Equation a^n + b^n = c^n (1) exists and a,b,c are positive integers, coprime to each other and n is a prime number. Let us now rearange the equation(1): a^n = (c-b)*(c^(n-1) + c^(n-2)*b...........+ b^(n-1)) (2) since from the solution when exist, we can form a Fermats triangle from the positive integers a,b,c, those triangle rules apply: a > c - b, b > c - a and 2c > b + a . so we can easily see that c – b is coprime to one part of a AND is not coprime to the other part of a if we factorize a into prime factors in the case when c – b does not equal to 1. When c – b equals to 1, there will be a second prof applied. The same apply for b respectively. And since b is even, we see that c – a is never 1. Let us first prove the case when c – b does not equal to 1. If we rearrange the (2) into: a^n = (c-b)*((c-b)^(n-1) + n*c*b*l)) (3) l being the positive integer. Since b, c and l are coprimes to c – b the only 2 cases apply : n is coprime to (c – b) or n is not coprime to (c – b). lets check the two cases, when n is not coprime to (c – b) n = c – b (1*) or n*m = c – b (2*) m being the positive integer, BUT the case when (n = (c – b)* k k being the positive integer does not apply, since n is prime). If we apply (1*) in (3) we see that (c - b)^2 part is square AND (c – b)^2 does not divide a^n since n is prime. So we got a contradiction. The second (2*) case when applied would give the contradiction too. It follows that if (c – b) = n*m when we apply this in (3) we get that n^2 divides a^n. This does not hold true since n is prime so the only remaining possibility would be that n^(n-2) is hidden in the c*b*l but we know that l is coprime to (c – b) and so are c and b, so this could not be the case.. We see now that in order that the solution exists (c - b) has to be coprime to n and since (c - b) is coprime to l, ******?When n is prime, a + b divides (1) and the very same thinking with coprimety of a + b to what is left when a^n + b^n = c^n is divided by a + b we can see again that a + b = c1 ^n. This we will apply in the second part of the proof. Since 2c > a + b > c we see that a + b does not include all the factors of c. So when the solution exist c is not a prime number.******** IT FOLLOWS (c – b) MUST take the form of (a1)^n when (c – b) does not equal to 1. c – b =(a1)^ n where a1 is one part of a and the another part of a is a2. And a2 is coprime to a2 respectivelly. This part a2 is hidden in the ((c-b)^(n-1) + n*a*b*l)) for the coprimety reason and if we see a as being factored to primes and a > c – b so a = a1*a2 In order to get the solutions a is odd, c is odd and respectively b is even. The same conclusions come for (c – a) respectively: b^n = (c-a) (c^(n-1) + c^(n-2)*a..........+a^(n-1)) (4)........... The same conclusions come from c^n, since when n is prime, is divisible by a + b. (this we will apply in the special case of proof when c – b = 1 SO WE GET NOW 2 STRONG CONDITIONS IN ORDER TO GET THE SOLUTION(S) FOR THE a,b,c being positive integers a, b, c forming a Fermat¨s triangle, n being prime and (c-b) being coprime to n and (c-b) does not equal 1. These 2 are: (c – b) = (a1)^n and (c – a) = (b1)^n (5) So, when these 2 combined we get: (a1)^n + b = (b1)^n + a (6) b = b1*b2 and a = a1*a2 b and a are factored to primes so that a1 and a2 are coprimes and b1 and b2 are coprimes. It follows that a1, a2, b1 and b2 are coprimes. so b1*b2 – a1*a2 = (b1)^n – (a1)^n (7) b1*b2 – a1*a2 = (b1 – a1) * r (8) r being the positive integer. The resulting linear Diophantine equation never has the solution when b1, b2, a1 and a2 are coprimes to each other OR to say another way, we get the contradiction with coprimarity from the begining of the proof. * The proof when c – b = 1* c – b = 1 c – a = b1^n 2*c = a + b + 1 + b1^n since a + b = c1^n 2*b + 2 = a + b + 1 + b1^n 2*b + 1 = c1^n + b1^n since 2*b + 1 equals to c + b when c – b equals to 1 we get: c + b = c1^n + b1^n since c + b divides c1^n* c2^n + b1^n* b2^n it never divides c1^n + b1^n so we again got a contradictory. The end of the proof. |
| Jan13-11, 07:42 AM | #2 |
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I mean I find it at least interesting. It could be the Fermats proof goes this way: applying triangle rules showing coprimarity and ending with 2 Diophantine equations. I have a good feeling the idea how to prove it is correct, but since I am the Math enthusiast only. I would ask the Mathematicians, to prove the coprimarity more precisely. I am not skilled in Math.
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| Jan14-11, 04:14 AM | #3 |
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SO WE GET NOW 2 STRONG CONDITIONS IN ORDER TO GET THE SOLUTION(S) FOR THE a,b,c being positive integers a, b, c forming a Fermat¨s triangle, n being prime and (c-b), (a+b), (c-a) being coprime to n and (c-b) does not equal 1. And the last proof: c + b = c1^n + b1^n since c + b divides c1^n* c2^n + b1^n* b2^n and since c1^n + b1^n never divides c1^n* c2^n + b1^n* b2^n we again got a contradictory. I will put it into more readable form with some math application soon. Anybody who would like to help me with this proof could contact me through pm. |
| Jan18-11, 09:59 PM | #4 |
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| Jan19-11, 08:21 AM | #5 |
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| Jan19-11, 08:29 AM | #6 |
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And Ramsey I have a good feeling about this approach. Could you please prove that (c-b) is coprime to l in equation (3)? I guess the (c-b) parts should be formed on even numbers, like in (3) in brackets, so finaly we get ((c-b)^2 +c*b*j) so when we are done its just necessary to prove that (c-b) and j are coprimes. I know its hard to take me seriously, concerning all the mistakes in former proofs, but before few months I knew very little about this problem. I am sorry for my impulsiveness concerning this forum, but most of the guys were really patient with me.
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| Jan20-11, 07:17 PM | #7 |
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| Jan21-11, 06:28 AM | #8 |
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| Jan21-11, 06:57 AM | #9 |
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And you are right in order the proof would be complete, there is this missing link I am talking about all the time. Experiences teach us that (c-b) is coprime to l in (3) Thats what I am kindly asking the Mathematicians to prove. And the same technique applies for (a + b), than the last equations are as they are writen. Thanks for your time Ramsey.
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| Jan21-11, 07:57 AM | #10 |
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| Jan21-11, 08:33 AM | #11 |
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| Jan21-11, 08:46 AM | #12 |
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and (a + b) of course couldnt be in form of c^2 when c is prime since c^2 is greater than 2c. I hope its ok.
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| Jan21-11, 08:51 AM | #13 |
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All in all I believe the proof in general is ok, just the things I am asking on this forum should be done and maybe some improvement of Math formulation. I hope to find somebody who will take his or her time.
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| Jan21-11, 09:07 AM | #14 |
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when we show (c-b) is coprime to l (the thing I am asking for several times) and a > c - b -----------> we get the 2 equations and factor coprimety as they are written at the end of the proof. I just wanted to show on the case of c how convinient the triangle rules are in the Fermats equation, leading us to the proof that c is not a prime number. Thanks for your time. |
| Jan21-11, 02:51 PM | #15 |
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| Jan22-11, 08:14 AM | #16 |
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and (c-b)^(n-1) with binomial factors as , (c-b)^(n-1) = c^(n-1) -(n-1)*c^(n-2)*b.............-(n-1)*b^(n-2)*c + b^(n-1) (2**)you see if you transform (2**) into c^(n-1) +c^(n-2)b ..............+ cb^(n-2) + b^(n-1) you have to add n*c*b*l part to (c-b)^(n-1) so you finally get : (c^(n-1) +c^(n-2)b ..............+ cb^(n-2) + b^(n-1) = (c-b)^(n-1) + n*c*b*l |
| Jan22-11, 10:27 AM | #17 |
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I forgot to make amends for the negative powers of b. But you claim that "c-b" is coprime with I. I don't see where you get that. Please explain. Then you say that "If we apply (1*) in (3) we see that (c - b)^2 part is square AND (c – b)^2 does not divide a^n since n is prime. So we got a contradiction. The second (2*) case when applied would give the contradiction too. It follows that if (c – b) = n*m when we apply this in (3) we get that n^2 divides a^n. This does not hold true since n is prime so the only remaining possibility would be that n^(n-2) is hidden in the c*b*l but we know that l is coprime to (c – b) and so are c and b, so this could not be the case.. We see now that in order that the solution exists (c - b) has to be coprime to n and since (c - b) is coprime to l," I don't follow any of this since a^2 divides a^7 and 7 is prime. So (c-b)^2 could divide a^n |
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