Solving a Spring-Ladle Problem: Work Rate at Equilibrium and Beyond

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The problem involves a ladle sliding on a frictionless surface attached to a spring, focusing on the work done by the spring at different positions. It is situated within the context of mechanics, specifically dealing with energy, work, and spring forces.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the work done by the spring at equilibrium and when compressed, with some questioning the assumptions made about work and force at these points. There are attempts to connect kinetic and potential energy to find the velocity of the ladle.

Discussion Status

The discussion reflects a lack of clarity on how to approach part (b) of the problem, with multiple participants expressing confusion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between kinetic and potential energy, but no consensus has been reached on the next steps.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there is uncertainty about the definitions and implications of work done by the spring, particularly in relation to the ladle's motion and energy states.

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I don't understand how to start part b. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Thank you!

A 0.29 kg ladle sliding on a horizontal frictionless surface is attached to one end of a horizontal spring (k = 435 N/m) whose other end is fixed. The ladle has a kinetic energy of 10 J as it passes through its equilibrium position (the point at which the spring force is zero).
(a) At what rate is the spring doing work on the ladle as the ladle passes through its equilibrium position?
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(b) At what rate is the spring doing work on the ladle when the spring is compressed 0.10 m and the ladle is moving away from the equilibrium position?
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I really don't see how you could do part (a) and then have no idea how to start part (b). HOw about showing us what you have done?
 
what i did for part a was just pretty much assume, and get it right. i figured when the spring force is zero, spring work is zero at equillibrium? right? then i don't know how to start part b. that's what i HAVE done
 
well, so far, 6 of us are stumped on this one... nobody even knows how to start it
 
I agree with you about (a). Zero force means zero work.

I assume that what they mean by the rate at which the spring is doing work on the ladle is the amount of work done per second. That means you will have to figure out what the velocity of the ladle is. To find the velocity, you must find the kinetic energy T, which of course satisfies E=T+V, where E is the total energy (which is known) and V is the potential energy. You should be able to figure out what V is if you know what the force is.
 
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