How Is Average Force Calculated in Shot Put?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average force exerted by a shot-putter on a shot, given its mass, distance moved, and release speed. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, particularly involving force, energy, and motion equations.

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  • Participants explore different methods to calculate average force, including conservation of energy and kinematic equations. Some suggest finding average acceleration as a pathway to determine force, while others discuss the implications of using various equations for distance and velocity.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering different approaches and questioning the adequacy of certain methods. There is recognition of the need for additional information, such as time, to fully resolve the problem, and some participants express understanding of the concepts being discussed.

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Participants note the challenge of dealing with multiple variables and the need for a third formula to incorporate time into their calculations. There is an acknowledgment of the constraints posed by the problem setup and the various interpretations of the equations involved.

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What is the average force exterted by a shot-putter on a 7.0 kg shot if the shot is moved through a distance of 2.8m and released with a speed of 13 m/s?

Can someone help me out?
 
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One way to solve this is with conservation of energy. Recall work W=Fs. That is force times distance. Also recall kinetic energy K = (1/2)mv^2.

This enough to get started?
 
another approach would be to figure out the average acceleration of the shot using v^2=v(initial)^2+2ad. from there finding the force is fairly simple.
 
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You've got two equations: one for how far an object moves over a given amount of time, one for how fast an accelerating object moves over a given amount of time.

For distance:

[tex]s_f=s_i + v t + \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]
[tex]2.8m=0 + 0 + \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]
[tex]at*\frac{1}{2}t=2.8m[/tex]

For velocity:

[tex]v_f=v_i+at[/tex]
[tex]13 m/s = 0 + at[/tex]
[tex]at=13m/s[/tex]

You can substitute 13m/s for at in the first equation and go from there.
 
bobg: noticed a slight problem with that method. would need to get a third formula for the time because of the (at)*(.5)(t). you're able to substitute out the at, but there's still a t in there that you would need to deal with.

the reason i chose the formula i did was because the only missing value in it was the acceleration, which happens to be the missing value from the righthand side of F=ma. a little algebra gives you a=v^2/(2d)
 
Your way is easier and more efficient. I just thought the other would be easier to visualize what is happening.
 
understood.
 

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