Determine a point where the electric field is zero

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The discussion revolves around determining the point where the electric field is zero between two point charges, Q1 and Q2, with given magnitudes and distances. The original poster attempts to use a computational approach to find this point but expresses uncertainty about whether the electric field can actually reach zero.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster describes a computational method involving guess and check to find where the electric field is zero, but questions the validity of this approach as the field appears to approach zero without ever reaching it. Other participants suggest deriving a formula for the total electric field and breaking the problem into regions based on the positions of the charges.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different methods to analyze the electric field, with some suggesting a more analytical approach rather than relying on computational guessing. There is recognition of the need to consider the sign of the electric fields in different regions, indicating a productive direction in the discussion.

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There is mention of the electric field approaching zero at infinity, but participants are focused on finding a specific point between the charges. The original poster's computational method raises questions about the assumptions made regarding the behavior of the electric field at various distances.

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Q1 = 0.000004 d1 = -0.01 m
Q2 = -0.000001 d2 = 0.03 m

Now using that information, I found that the electric field at x = 0.0 m is 3.7 x 10^8 N/C

now i need to find out at which point the electric field is zero.

I made a program to guess and check for me, and what I do is:

[k * 0.000004] / (x+d1)^2 = field 1
[k * -0.00001] / (x-d2)^2 = field 2

then field 1 - field 2 = net electric field at x

The calculations are not wrong because when i enter 0, i get the correct answer, and when i plug in other numbers (1, 4, 5) that i have worked out, it gives me the correct answer also.

My problem is that it seems that there will never be an electric field of zero, it just gets smaller and smaller.

For example, at a point of 1 million meters, the net electrical field is 4.493999982024E-08

at a point of 100 million meters, the net electrical field is 4.4939999998202E-12

so it just gets smaller and smaller, but will it ever get to zero? or am i doing somethign wrong?

Thanks
 
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While it's certainly true that the field goes to zero at infinity, I don't think that's what they are looking for. :smile:

Forget computer programs. Instead, figure out the formula for the total field at any point. Note that signs matter! You may want to break up the x-axis into three regions ( < d1; d1 to d2; > d2) and consider the field in each region separately. Give it a try.
 
well that formula would be:

(x is in cm)

(N/C) = {(k * 0.000004) / [(x+1)^2 / 100]} - {(k * 0.000001) / [(x-3)^2 / 100]}

so i know that i would set n/c to zero, but where do i go from there?
 
Since the sign of the fields from each charge changes from one region to the other, you'll need a separate formula for the field in each region. (For example: the field from a + charge is negative on one side, positive on the other.)
 

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