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The problem involves proving the existence of a positive number Q related to a quadratic expression in two variables, specifically focusing on the inequality involving real numbers A, B, and C under certain conditions. The subject area pertains to vector calculus and inequalities.

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  • Participants discuss various approaches to the inequality, with some suggesting the use of the quadratic formula and others questioning how specific variables relate to the problem. There is an exploration of the discriminant condition and its implications for the values of Q.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the quadratic expression and the discriminant, but no consensus has been reached on a definitive approach.

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Participants express uncertainty about how to proceed with the problem, indicating a need for clarification on the relationships among the variables and the implications of the given conditions.

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Can anyone point me in the right direction for this problem? I can't seem to approach it from the right angle:


Let A, B, C be real numbers such that [tex]A>0[/tex], [tex]B>0[/tex], [tex]AC-B^2>0[/tex].

a. Prove that a number [tex]Q>0[/tex] exists such that [tex]Ax^2+2Bxy+Cy^2 \geq Q(x^2+y^2)[/tex]

b. Find the largest possible Q.


I don't need answers (or rather, I do, but, you know what I mean; my main concern is figuring out how to approach this without my head exploding. Thanks in advance.
 
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Saint Medici said:
I don't need answers (or rather, I do, but, you know what I mean; my main concern is figuring out how to approach this without my head exploding. Thanks in advance.

Are you familiar with the quadratic formula?
 
Solving for x? Solving for y? Solving for Q? I don't understand how that solves anything. Not being a smart-alec; I just don't understand.
 
I'm just trying to give you hints that you might be able to use to find an answer.

The LHS of the inequality looks a lot like:
[tex](ax+cy)^2=a^2x^2+2acxy+c^2y^2[/tex]

Similarly, the quadratic formula:
[tex]\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}[/tex]
has
[tex]b^2-4ac[/tex]
which looks a lot like
[tex]B^2-AC[/tex]
 
Not necessarily the best way but here's how I would do it:
You want
[tex]Ax^2+2Bxy+Cy^2 \geq Q(x^2+y^2)[/tex]
which is the same as
[tex](A-Q)x^2+ 2Bxy+ (C-Q)y^2\geq 0[/tex].
The will be true as long as the "discriminant" is not positive:
[tex]4B^2- 4(A-Q)(C-Q)\leq 0[/tex]
or
[tex]4B^2- 4AC+ 4AQ+4CQ- 4Q^2\leq 0[/tex]
That, of course, is the same as
[tex]Q^2+ (A+C)Q+ AC- B^2\geq 0[/tex]

You can use the quadratic formula to find values of Q for which that is true.
 

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