Estimating f(x) & Computing dy/dx: Answers vs. Solutions

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The discussion revolves around estimating a function value using differentials, computing derivatives through implicit differentiation, and applying the mean value theorem to a specific function. The subject area includes calculus concepts such as differentials, derivatives, and the mean value theorem.

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  • Participants explore the use of differentials to estimate f(8.05) and question the accuracy of their calculations. There is an attempt to compute dy/dx using implicit differentiation, with some confusion about the results. The mean value theorem is also discussed, with participants questioning the values derived from the function's derivative.

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Some participants provide guidance on the correct application of formulas and methods, while others express confusion about their calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored, and there is a recognition of errors in reasoning without reaching a consensus.

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Participants note potential misunderstandings in the application of calculus concepts, such as the correct use of the mean value theorem and implicit differentiation. There are indications of homework constraints and specific values that need to be addressed in the calculations.

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1) Use differentials to estimate f(8.05) given that f(8)=71 and
(d/dx)f(x)=sqrt of (x+56)

i used f(c+h) = f(c) + fprime(c) * h
i got 8.125, but the answer is 71.40

2) Compute dy/dx at the given values xy - 6y^2 - 2x = -24 , x=1, y=2

I keep getting 4/25
but the answer is 0

3) Give a value c that satisfies the conclusion of the mean value theorem on the interval 2 < x < 5 for the function f(x) = 6x^2 + 8x + 13 (note: all < means greater than or equal to )

I took the prime of f(x), and f '(c) = 12x + 8
12x + 8 = 5
and I got c= (-1/4)
but the answer is c = (7/4)
 
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1. The formula is correct, and when I'm using it, I get 71.4.
2. The question doesn't make sense.
3. f'(c) is 50, not 5.
 
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I think 2) should read:

For the following expression: xy - 6y^2 - 2x = -24

Compute dy/dx for the following values: x = 1, y = 2

Differentiate implicitly wrt x:

[tex]xy - 6y^2 - 2x = -24[/tex]

[tex][x\frac{dy}{dx} + y] - 12y\frac{dy}{dx} - 2 = 0[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx}(x - 12y) = 2 - y[/tex]

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{2 - y}{x - 12y} = \frac{2 - 2}{1 - 24} =0[/tex]
 
OK, that makes sense. I messed up and thought that (1,2) isn't even on that curve, but I guess 2-24-2 really is -24. :smile:
 
buffgilville said:
1) Use differentials to estimate f(8.05) given that f(8)=71 and
(d/dx)f(x)=sqrt of (x+56)

i used f(c+h) = f(c) + fprime(c) * h
i got 8.125, but the answer is 71.40

I wish you had shown your work. You seem to be making some serious mistakes. In this case, you are told that f(c)= f(8)= 71 so I don't see how you could haved gotten 71+ something equal to "8.125".
Yes, f(c+ h)= f(c)+ f'(c)*h (approximately)
so f(8+ .05)= f(8)+ f'(8)*(0.05)
= 71+ sqrt(8+56)*(0.05)
= 71+ sqrt(64)*(0.05)
= 71+ 8*(0.05)= 71+ 0.4= 71.4
2) Compute dy/dx at the given values xy - 6y^2 - 2x = -24 , x=1, y=2

I keep getting 4/25
but the answer is 0

HOW do you get "4/25"? Using "implicit differentiation",
y+ xy'- 12yy'- 2= 0. Setting x= 1, y= 2, this is
2+y'- 24y'- 2 or -23y'= 0. I wonder if you weren't getting the signs mixed up?

3) Give a value c that satisfies the conclusion of the mean value theorem on the interval 2 < x < 5 for the function f(x) = 6x^2 + 8x + 13 (note: all < means greater than or equal to )

I took the prime of f(x), and f '(c) = 12x + 8
12x + 8 = 5
and I got c= (-1/4)
but the answer is c = (7/4)

You took the derivative of f(x)! Don't use "slang"!

The mean value theorem says [itex]\frac{f(b)-f(a)}{b- a}= f '(x)[/itex] for some x between a and b. In this case, a= 2, b= 5 so f(b)= 6(25)+ 8(5)+ 13= 150+ 40+ 13= 203 and f(a)= 6(4)+ 8(2)+ 13= 24+16+ 13= 53. We are looking for c so that [itex]f '(c)= 12c+ 8 = \frac{203-53}{5-2}=\frac{150}{3}= 50. 12c+ 8= 50 so 12c= 42. c= 42/12= 7/2 (?Not 7/4).<br /> I have no idea where you got "5". If 12c+ 8= 41, then 12c= 33[/itex]
 
Thanks for everyone's help! :smile:
 

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