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The discussion revolves around the search for the paper "A Time-Dependent Computational Method for Blunt Body Flows" by Moretti G. and M. Abbett, published in 1966. Participants express their challenges in accessing this and other technical aerospace papers without incurring fees, while also discussing the relevance of older computational methods in current research.

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  • One participant is actively searching for the paper and has not found any free access options despite extensive searching.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of paying for access to a paper that is 40 years old.
  • Some participants suggest that professional journals typically require payment or institutional access for their articles.
  • A suggestion is made to check university library subscriptions for access to the journal.
  • A participant expresses interest in the computational methods used in the paper for their own simulation work, highlighting the challenges of programming modern computational fluid dynamics (CFD) solutions.
  • There is a discussion about the enduring value of older papers, with some participants noting that they still find relevance in research from decades past.

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Participants generally agree that accessing older technical papers can be challenging without incurring costs. However, there is disagreement regarding the necessity of fees for older publications, with some arguing that their value persists over time.

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Participants reference the limitations of computational power in the past and the relevance of older methodologies in current research, but do not resolve the issue of access to the specific paper or the broader implications of publication fees.

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Clausius2
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I'm searching for the paper:

Moretti G. and M. Abbett. "A Time-Dependent Computational Method for Blunt Body Flows" AIAA J. vol 4, no.12, pp. 2136-2141, December 1966.

Do you know where can I find it?. I have been googling for a lot of time, but I haven't found any website free of fees.
 
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In fact, do you know any website where technical (aerospace) papers are available without paying any taxes?

I have visited yet the AIAA, but they need your data and some money for allowing you to chew over their papers...
 
No professionnal journals should be avallable for free. You either have to pay or go through your school or company if they are subsribed to it.
 
Maybe you're right, but I don't understand why I have to pay for an article 40 years old.
 
Does your university's library have that journal purchased? Usually that'll get you access without paying.
 
Well, I just checked. They don't have a full text version available for download.

Is there a specific reason you're looking for a "computational" blunt body method from 40 years ago? Computers weren't exactly super-powerful back then... :-p
 
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Well, I just checked. They don't have a full text version available for download.

Is there a specific reason you're looking for a "computational" blunt body method from 40 years ago? Computers weren't exactly super-powerful back then... :-p

I want some qualitative information. I'm doing a computational simulation of a shock wave capture in a blunt body. Sure the results are out of the state-of-the-art of CFD, but the formulation I'm using is the same as Moretti and Abbett used. So that, any opinion about convergence, stability criterion, artificial viscosity employed by them would be very useful. I'm using Matlab in an usual PC, so that my simulation is similar to those made in that years. Also, I'm using old methods (like MacCormack's algorithm). It is not a revolutionary project, simply I'm trying to get practice in programming. I assure you the solution of a dettached shock by means of the full N-S equations is very difficult to program by oneself, even nowadays.

Thanks for your interest.

PD: If you know any weblink or information about it, besides that paper, please, let me know.
 
Clausius2 said:
Maybe you're right, but I don't understand why I have to pay for an article 40 years old.

The papers become archives. They don't lose their value with time and the publishers know this. Old papers are constantly resurfacing. I also work with a few that are 50 years old. Some papers are just that good.
 

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