X-ray tube used for cancer therapy

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving an x-ray tube used for cancer therapy, specifically focusing on the power output and the flow rate of water required to maintain a temperature rise within specified limits. The subject area includes concepts from thermodynamics and electrical power.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between power, energy, and temperature change, questioning the need for initial temperature information. Some suggest assuming a worst-case scenario for calculations, while others express confusion about defining temperature rise and how to approach the flow rate calculation.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some providing hints and others seeking clarification on specific terms and concepts. There is a recognition of the importance of understanding the energy dynamics involved, though no consensus on a complete method has been reached.

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There is a lack of initial temperature information provided in the problem, which has led to discussions about assumptions and definitions related to temperature rise. The problem also involves interpreting the units of measurement correctly.

jpnnngtn
Heres the problem:
An x-ray tube used for cancer therapy operates at 4.0 MV, with a beam current of 25 mA striking the metal target.Nearly all of this power is transferred to a stream of water flowing through the holes drilled in the target. What rate of flow, in Kg/sec, is needed if the temperature rise of the water is not to exceed 50 degrees celsius.

I/m thinking power = 4000 V * .025 A = 100 watts

then the specific heat of water = 4186 j but this problem doesent give an initial temperature of the water.. Am I right so far?
 
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If it doesn't give you a starting condition, assume a worst case scenario and design from that.

Also, is it MegaVolts or milliVolts? You've got the equation set up for kiloVolts.
 
im confused about worst case scenario. I don't understand what to do...
 


Originally posted by jpnnngtn
Heres the problem:
(snip)temperature rise of the water is not to exceed 50 degrees celsius.

(snip)this problem doesent give an initial temperature of the water..


How do you define "temperature rise?"
 
I guess I define tempwerature rise as a positive change in temperature. ...right?
 
Precisely - it's the change in temperature, and hence energy of the water that is significant. So you don't need to know the initial temperature of the water.
 
Now that that is established, I am stil confused on exactly what I need to do... How to find the flow of water in Kg/sec that is..Where would I start. The electricity part is not a problem. it is just implementing it.
 
50*4186*rate (kg/s)=100KW, hence
rate=0.477783
 
The "electricity part" IS important- it tells you how much energy goes into the system each second. Now, how much energy can REMAIN in the system (enough to raise the temperature of the water 50 degrees) and how has to leave the system? How fast does the water have to go out to in order to remove that energy.

To Sonty: Thanks for helping but just giving the answer doesn't help as much as (1) hints, (2) sometimes the solution given in detail with explanation.
 
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I thought he got the energy almost right and I guess he should know the

Q=m*c* &Delta * &theta

formula. What was making him insecure is that "rate" thing which you get from the realtion between energy and power.
 

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