How Do You Calculate Rocket Acceleration with Limited Information?

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The problem involves calculating the acceleration of a weather rocket during its initial launch phase. The rocket has a mass of 1000 kg and experiences a constant acceleration for the first 16 seconds before the motor stops. The total altitude reached after 20 seconds is 5100 m, and air resistance is ignored.

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  • The original poster expresses difficulty in determining the rocket's acceleration due to a lack of information about displacement and final velocity. Some participants suggest considering force analysis, while others discuss the implications of the rocket's motion during the two phases of its flight.

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Participants are exploring the relationships between time, acceleration, and displacement. One participant has provided a breakdown of the motion phases, indicating that an equation can be formed to relate the unknown acceleration to the known altitude. There is no explicit consensus yet, but a productive direction has been suggested.

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The problem is set in a context where forces have not yet been introduced, which may limit the approaches available to the participants. The original poster's frustration with the lack of information is noted, as well as the challenge of deriving acceleration from the given data.

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A 1000kg weather rocket is launched straight up. The rocket motor provides a constant acceleration for 16 s, then the motor stops. The rocket altitude 20 s after launch is 5100 m. You can ignore any effects of air resistance.


What's the rocket's acceleration during the first 16 seconds?



I posted this in another thread but I guess nobody is looking at it... if posting this is against the rules then I guess ban me/lock thread but PLEASE how do I even start? Initial velocity is zero, I know time, but with no displacement (the 5100 is for the very end after the motor stopped) or final velocity (when the motor stops) I just can't get it. I used all 3 equations and the best I can do is get acceleration in terms of final postion (the one where the motor stops).

:cry:
 
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The 1000 kgs seems to suggest some force analysis.
 
It's from a chapter before forces are introduced so it shouldn't have anything with the problem...
 
FancyNut said:
A 1000kg weather rocket is launched straight up. The rocket motor provides a constant acceleration for 16 s, then the motor stops. The rocket altitude 20 s after launch is 5100 m. You can ignore any effects of air resistance.


What's the rocket's acceleration during the first 16 seconds?



Initial velocity is zero, I know time, but with no displacement (the 5100 is for the very end after the motor stopped) or final velocity (when the motor stops) I just can't get it. I used all 3 equations and the best I can do is get acceleration in terms of final postion (the one where the motor stops).

:cry:

Try to think logically instead of plugging in data into formulas... What happened to the rocket? It rose with constant acceleration for t1=16 s, after that the motor stopped but gravity still acted on it, so it rose with deceleration of g for t2=4 s.
You do not know the acceleration during the first t1 time, so it is "a".
The velocity rose to v1=a*t1, and the displacement is h1=a/2*t1^2.
Now the second period comes, for t2=4 seconds, with acceleration -g and "starting" velocity vo=v1. The displacement is h2=vo*t2 -g/2 *t2^2= a*t1*t2-g/2*t2^2.
The sum of both displacements is h = h1+h2 =5100 m. You have one equation with one unknown, it is the acceleration, a.

ehild
 
ehild said:
Try to think logically instead of plugging in data into formulas... What happened to the rocket? It rose with constant acceleration for t1=16 s, after that the motor stopped but gravity still acted on it, so it rose with deceleration of g for t2=4 s.
You do not know the acceleration during the first t1 time, so it is "a".
The velocity rose to v1=a*t1, and the displacement is h1=a/2*t1^2.
Now the second period comes, for t2=4 seconds, with acceleration -g and "starting" velocity vo=v1. The displacement is h2=vo*t2 -g/2 *t2^2= a*t1*t2-g/2*t2^2.
The sum of both displacements is h = h1+h2 =5100 m. You have one equation with one unknown, it is the acceleration, a.

ehild


*gives ehild a box of cookies*

:D :D :D

I guess next time I shouldn't be so lazy and just expect to plug in numbers in a given formula... :redface:
 
FancyNut said:
*gives ehild a box of cookies*

:D :D :D

I guess next time I shouldn't be so lazy and just expect to plug in numbers in a given formula... :redface:


Great! and thanks for the virtual cookies. They were yummy :smile:

ehild
 

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