The American Conservative endorses - Kerry

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The discussion revolves around the endorsement of John Kerry by The American Conservative, focusing on the contrasting views of George W. Bush and Kerry from a conservative perspective. Participants express their opinions on the implications of both candidates' policies, particularly regarding immigration and foreign policy, as well as the broader political landscape leading up to the election.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant argues that George W. Bush's policies are contrary to thoughtful conservatism, criticizing his international approach and immigration policies.
  • Another participant counters that John Kerry would be a worse choice, citing his stance on amnesty for illegal aliens and his association with figures they find undesirable.
  • This participant also expresses support for Michael Anthony Peroutka of the Constitution Party, suggesting that voting for him could help establish an alternative to the mainstream candidates.
  • A later post expresses confusion about the arguments being presented, questioning the rationale behind the criticisms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are competing views on the merits and drawbacks of both Bush and Kerry, with some advocating for a third-party candidate as a viable option.

Contextual Notes

Participants express strong opinions based on their interpretations of the candidates' policies and the political climate, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying disagreements regarding the effectiveness or implications of the candidates' platforms.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in conservative political commentary, election analysis, and discussions on third-party candidates may find this thread relevant.

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George W. Bush has come to embody a politics that is antithetical to almost any kind of thoughtful conservatism. His international policies have been based on the hopelessly naïve belief that foreign peoples are eager to be liberated by American armies—a notion more grounded in Leon Trotsky’s concept of global revolution than any sort of conservative statecraft. His immigration policies—temporarily put on hold while he runs for re-election—are just as extreme. A re-elected President Bush would be committed to bringing in millions of low-wage immigrants to do jobs Americans “won’t do.” This election is all about George W. Bush, and those issues are enough to render him unworthy of any conservative support.

http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/cover1.html
 
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Uhhh, not quite.

http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/taki.html
Kerry, of course, is far worse, a disaster in the making. Not only has he dismissed the president’s promises to enact amnesty for illegal aliens as insufficient, he has vowed to sign an amnesty within his first 100 days in office. Again, as Pat writes in his endorsement of the president, the people on Kerry’s side are all those I despise, the George Soroses, Barbra Streisands, and Michael Moores of this world. What unites the Kerry army is hate for George W. Bush. Marching under the Michael Moore banner, they have no message except to get rid of the 43rd president. If this is a policy, I’m Monica Lewinsky. Their self-righteous anger is negative and as dishonest as John Kerry’s false populism. Signing the Kyoto Protocol and adhering to the rules of the International Criminal Court will only weaken America and yield national sovereignty. Which brings me to my choice, Michael Anthony Peroutka Yes, I know, it sounds like a wasted vote, but is it? He is the nominee of a small third party called the Constitution Party. The point of voting for Peroutka is to help create an alternative. After all, there has to be a start somewhere and adhering to the Constitution as Peroutka advocates is a pretty good way to begin.
 
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http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/taki.html
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Why all the spin, folks?
 

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