Does Light Travel at the Same Speed in Air and Vacuum?

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The discussion centers around the speed of light in different media, specifically comparing its speed in air and vacuum, and the implications of this on light dispersion and refraction. Participants explore concepts related to the behavior of different colors of light as they pass through various materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether all colors of light travel at the same speed in air as in a vacuum and connects this to the phenomenon of light dispersion.
  • Another participant asserts that different colors of light travel at different speeds in a medium like air, leading to dispersion and refraction.
  • A third participant elaborates that the frequency of light determines its color, while the wavelength affects refraction, noting that white light disperses into colors due to varying wavelengths.
  • There is a discussion about how the wavelength changes when light moves between media of different refractive indices, with one participant stating that the wavelength decreases when moving from high to low refractive index and increases in the opposite case.
  • Another participant raises a question about the relationship between refraction and wavelength, suggesting that refraction involves a change in speed that affects direction.
  • One participant explains that the angles of a prism cause dispersion, as different wavelengths interact differently with the medium, resulting in varied travel times.
  • Several participants engage in a mathematical discussion regarding the relationship between wavelength, frequency, and the speed of light, with some expressing uncertainty about their statements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the specifics of how light behaves in various media, particularly regarding the effects of refraction and dispersion. There is no consensus on the nuances of these concepts, and uncertainty is present in several contributions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge their lack of thorough understanding of the topic, which may affect the reliability of their claims. The discussion includes assumptions about the behavior of light in different media that are not fully explored.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying optics, physics, or anyone curious about the properties of light and its interaction with different materials.

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juz want to noe something...

does all colour light travel in the same speed in air as in a vacumm?

If so... then why does a light disperse when it passes through a medium/..

<note: they disperse due to different speed of light,
right?>

correct me if i am wrong! :biggrin:
 
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Different colors of light, same as different frequencies of light, or different wavelengths, travel at different speeds through a transparent medium like air. You are correct, the different colors disperse/refract differently. For prisms:
Blue bends best, red refracts rotten!
 
To expand, the frequency of the light is what determines it's color, and the wavelength is what determines how much it refracts. That is why when 'white light' (a mixture of all colors) comes from the sun and hits Earth's atmosphere, blue light, which has the shortest wavelength, refracts all over and spreads out, making the sky blue.

When you change mediums, the color doesn't change because the frequency doesn't, even though the wavelength does. That is why if you hold a red ball in your hand, then submerge yourself under water, the color is still red, even though the refractive index is higher and the wavelength has changed.

Different colors of light, same as different frequencies of light, or different wavelengths, travel at different speeds through a transparent medium like air.

I'd just like to add that this rule (probably) also applies to non-visible Electromagnetic waves (light you can AND can't see) traveling through any medium. For example, different frequencies of X-rays going through your skin follow the same relationship as do different colors of visible light going through a vacuum or a transparent medium.

Just a note: It's been a while since I've done this, and I've never really learned it as thoroughly as I should have, so don't trust what I've said 100%, and if someone else here corrects me, they are more than likely right.
 
Ok... thanx
so... would the wavelength be changed shorter or longer? And how actually does refraction of light affect the wavelength of the ray?
 
It depends on whether you are moving from a high to a low refractive index, or a low to high refractive index. From high to low, the wavelength will decrease, from low to high, the wavelength will increase.

Refraction of light refers to the change in direction of a ray, not the change in wavelength.

Claude.
 
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ok... But then i thought refraction was the change of speed which result in the change of direction of the different colours of rays///...?

I noe that refraction causes light rays to change ...But y only does refraction in a prism causes light to disperse... but not a normal piece of glass block?

 
It is the angles on the surfaces of a prism that cause the dispersion. If you shape glass or any other transparent media into faceted faces it will create rainbows. Each wavelength of the incident light interacts slightly differently with the media. Thus different wavelengths take different amounts of time to pass though the material.
 
Correct me if i am wrond (which i probably am)

isn't,

wavelength = frequency * velocity of light?
 
The_Thinker said:
isn't,

wavelength = frequency * velocity of light?

Velocity=frequency *wavelength

Therefore when u arrange them, it will be wavelength=Velocity/frequency
 

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