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May22-11, 01:58 AM   #1
 

Coprime time


How many times a day are the hour and minute coprime?
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May23-11, 05:19 PM   #2
 
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May26-11, 05:56 PM   #3
 
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If I understand correctly, it's a lot more than that! There are 30 times within the hour of 2:00-2:59 alone that are co-prime!

Is this question meant on a 24-hour clock or a 12-hour clock?

DaveE
May28-11, 03:17 PM   #4
 

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Sorry. This is wrong.

Quote by davee123 View Post
If I understand correctly, it's a lot more than that! There are 30 times within the hour of 2:00-2:59 alone that are co-prime!

Is this question meant on a 24-hour clock or a 12-hour clock?

DaveE
Right. There are more than that.

You need to consider 2 cases:
- Analog time
- Digital time

And, you need to exclude 0.


Perhaps, I was wrong to post this question in this forum. Could the moderators transfer/repost this thread in the "Number Theory" forum?
May29-11, 01:23 PM   #5
 
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You need to consider 2 cases:
- Analog time
- Digital time
I'm not sure I understand why Analog and Digital time would be different, unless you mean a 24-hour digital clock (IE, one that says 23:17 rather than 11:17pm). If we're talking a 12-hour clock, then the answer is all the coprime times in the range 1:00-12:59, then doubled. If we're talking a 24-hour clock, then it's just all the coprime times in the range 00:00-23:59.

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And, you need to exclude 0.
I'm not sure I understand why? My reference being Wikipedia:

"The numbers 1 and −1 are coprime to every integer, and they are the only integers to be coprime with 0."

Hence, in a 24-hour clock, ALL the minutes from 00:00-00:59 are coprime, excluding 00:01.

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Perhaps, I was wrong to post this question in this forum. Could the moderators transfer/repost this thread in the "Number Theory" forum?
I dunno, word problems frequently go here, although I'm not sure what the official stance on them is.

DaveE
May31-11, 04:22 PM   #6
 
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Hence, in a 24-hour clock, ALL the minutes from 00:00-00:59 are coprime, excluding 00:01.
Whoops, got that backwards-- none of the minutes from 00:00-00:59 are coprime, except for 00:01, but ALL of the minutes from 01:00-01:59 are coprime.

Since there seems to be no resolution, here's both answers:

24-hour clock: 865/1440 times per day are coprime

12-hour clock: 894/1440 times per day are coprime (or 447/720 distinct combinations)

And how about the hour, minute, and seconds all being coprime of each other?

24-hour clock: 24594/86400 times per day are coprime

12-hour clock: 25252/86400 times per day are coprime (or 12626/43200 distinct combinations)

DaveE
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