When should a coastguard cutter start out to intercept a ship?

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The problem involves a coastguard cutter attempting to intercept a ship that is moving parallel to a coastline at a certain distance offshore. The cutter has a lower speed than the ship, and the task is to determine when the cutter should start in order to successfully intercept the ship.

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  • Participants discuss breaking down velocity components and evaluating displacement equations. There is an attempt to express the relationship between the cutter's and ship's positions over time, with some questioning the correctness of their derived equations and the role of angle θ.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing their approaches and reasoning. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of derivatives to find minimum values, and there is an ongoing exploration of trigonometric relationships. No explicit consensus has been reached, and some participants are still uncertain about their calculations.

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There is a focus on the conditions under which the cutter can intercept the ship, with discussions about the implications of starting distances and speed differences. The problem setup includes specific constraints related to the speeds of the cutter and the ship.

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Hi, I have this question which I am having trouble with

A ship is steaming parallel to a straight coastline, distance D offshore, at speed [tex]v[/tex]. A coastguard cutter, whose speed is u (u<v) seta out from port to intercept the ship. Show that the cutter must start out before the ship passes a point a distance [tex]\displaystyle{D\frac{\sqrt{v^2 - u^2}}{u}}[/tex] back along the coast.

Im looking for a hint of how to go about this.

http://img27.exs.cx/img27/6558/Ships.jpgHeres a picture

Ive tried breaking the u vector into its horizontal and vertical components but that isn't getting me anywhere. Any ideas?

Thankyou
 
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Welcome to PF LondonLady!

If the cutter starts out after the ship passes the mentioned distance, the coastguard will be unable to intercept the ship. Breaking the velocity components is just one of the steps. What have you done?
 
Hi, thankyou! :smile:

Em, well first i designated the value of the distance that v starts behind u to be 'x'

So then I broke the u vector into [tex]u\cos \theta i + u\sin \theta j[/tex].

At the time of intersection 't' the two ships will be in the same place so i evaluated the x - y displacement at that time and got...

[tex]vt - x = ut\cos \theta[/tex]

and

[tex]ut\sin \theta = D[/tex]

I eliminated t to get

[tex]\displaystyle{x = \frac{D(u\cos \theta - v)}{u \sin \theta}}[/tex]

My problem is, I don't know if this right, and if it is, how i would go about getting rid of [tex]\theta[/tex]. Maybe I am missing some obvious relation involving [tex]\theta[/tex] :confused:
 
That's good; now you want x to be a minimum to get that particular point so take the derivative - remember at a minimum the derivitave = 0. A little trigonometry and the angles disappear.
 
Hello, thankyou for your reply :smile:

Ahhh!

I started with [tex]\displaystyle{x = D\frac{u\cos \theta - v}{u \sin \theta}}[/tex]

and differentiated. I found that at the minimum of x

[tex]\displaystyle{\cos \theta = \frac{u}{v}}[/tex]

which would mean (after drawing a triangle) that

[tex]\displaystyle{\sin \theta = \frac{\sqrt{v^2 - u^2}}{u}}}[/tex]

When I plug these back in at the top I get

[tex]\displaystyle{x = D\frac{u^2 - v^2}{u\sqrt{v^2 - u^2}}}[/tex]

which is wrong!

What me doing wrong?
 
I got it!

Thanks all
 

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