Elastic Collision: Who Experiences Larger Accel?

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The problem involves two carts of different masses colliding elastically and questions which cart experiences a larger magnitude of acceleration during the collision. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically Newton's laws and conservation of momentum.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law and conservation of momentum, with some questioning the assumptions made about the velocities of the carts before the collision. There is also a focus on the implications of mass on acceleration due to equal and opposite forces.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration, particularly through the lens of Newton's laws. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify assumptions about the system.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the assumption of equal initial velocities may not be valid and emphasize the importance of considering the total momentum of the system before and after the collision.

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A cart of mass M and a second cart of mass 2M collide head on elastically and bounce apart. Which cart experiences a larger magnitude of acceleration during the collision?
 
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I think the strategy for this question may be as simple as: think Newton's second law
 
apply conservation of momentum.
m1v1 = m2v2, assuming they are traveling at the same velocities.

you derive then for the acceleration. (algebraically speaking)
James
 
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here...there is no reason to assume that they are traveling at the same velocity, and even if they were, why should the momentum of the first cart equal that of the second? Conservation of momentum states that the TOTAL momentum of the system should be the same before and after the collision. So, using primed quantities to represent values after the collision:

m1v1 + m2v2 = m1'v1' + m2'v2'

In any case, I don't see how that helps her answer the problem. Using Newton's third law, the two carts exert equal and opposite contact forces on each other. By Newton's second law, the same force accelerates two different masses by different amounts, and it imparts a cart twice as heavy with half the acceleration, right?
 
Touche!~ I now remember a tennis ball and basketball demonstration. Yes it is the action/reaction forces at play here. Forget what I said before.

Duh!
 

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