Is Censorship Necessary in TV Movie Broadcasts?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the necessity and implications of censorship in TV movie broadcasts, specifically focusing on examples from the film "The Matrix" as aired on TBS. Participants explore the effects of altering dialogue and the broader cultural implications of censorship in media.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the necessity of changing phrases like "Jesus Christ!" to "Judas Priest!" in broadcasts, arguing it diminishes the impact of the original dialogue.
  • Others express frustration with censorship practices, suggesting that they often lack logic and can lead to confusion or curiosity about the original content.
  • A participant recalls personal experiences where censorship made them more curious about the bleeped words, indicating that censorship may not achieve its intended effect.
  • Some contributors mention that the censorship practices on TBS seem particularly excessive, with examples of minor word alterations that they find unnecessary.
  • There is a humorous exchange about the viewing experience on TBS, with some participants noting the irony of watching serious films on a channel known for comedy.
  • One participant brings up the idea that commercial breaks can provide opportunities for viewers to take breaks, contrasting with uninterrupted viewing on other channels.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express disagreement regarding the effectiveness and rationale behind censorship, with multiple competing views on its necessity and impact on the viewing experience. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus reached.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference personal anecdotes and cultural observations that highlight the subjective nature of censorship and its varying impact across different audiences. There are also mentions of specific examples that illustrate the inconsistencies in censorship decisions.

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I'm sitting here watching Matrix on TBS. There is a line in the movie where Mouse says, "Jesus Christ! He's fast" but on TBS he says "Judas Priest! He's fast"
Is this really necessary?
 
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tribdog said:
I'm sitting here watching Matrix on TBS. There is a line in the movie where Mouse says, "Jesus Christ! He's fast" but on TBS he says "Judas Priest! He's fast"
Is this really necessary?


:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:

Thou shalt not use the Lord thy God's name in vain...

But use the name of them thar evil traitors all you like!

JUDAS PRIEST!
 
This is pretty good ... :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile: ... I've sometimes even thought that people doing the censoring might own a set of brains ... glad you proved me wrong ...
 
TBS is really pushing it. I don't understand how one can take a word like "****" out of a screenplay, when it belongs to be in the screenplay. All it does is lose effect.
 
I really don't understand that one, but then censors rarely make any sense. I can't recall what the exact story or word was, but I remember someone being interviewed on the tonight show who said the censors told them to change a word on a show, something like, they couldn't use one slang term for penis, but were allowed to use an alternative slang term...when he said the word they were allowed to use, I thought it was too funny that the one they weren't allowed to use actually sounded more ambiguous to me.

I'm not sure the censoring helps anyway. When I was a kid, I remember watching some show where they did some bleeping...I would try to guess what they were saying...you'd hear f(beep), and I'd wonder if there was an even worse f-word than f*ck since all the kids already knew the word f*ck, so there must be an even worse word if the kids aren't allowed to hear it. Those were usually the questions my parents answered with, "We'll tell you when you're older." See, all the bleeping did was make me more curious to learn what the bleeped word was.
 
tribdog said:
I'm sitting here watching Matrix on TBS. There is a line in the movie where Mouse says, "Jesus Christ! He's fast" but on TBS he says "Judas Priest! He's fast"
Is this really necessary?

Would you prefer to exclaim the name of a (fictional) character or a truly rockin' 80's metal band?
 
i hate censorship also, it takes away from the experience on the film, i find TBS to be the wort at this, something like darn would be substituted darm, now I'm exagerating but its really getting bad
 
Wait, wait, TRibdog. Why were you watching the Matrix, of all movies, on TBS, the channel who's motto is 'very funny'?

By the way, Star Wars Episode VI totally OWNS all of the Matrix movies (don't get me wrong, the MAtrix rules); you just can't beat a movie who's main line is "Now I am the master", spoken by one of the most famous villans in history.

The only show worth watching on TBS is Home Improvement.
 
Moonbear said:
I'm not sure the censoring helps anyway. When I was a kid, I remember watching some show where they did some bleeping...I would try to guess what they were saying...you'd hear f(beep), and I'd wonder if there was an even worse f-word than f*ck since all the kids already knew the word f*ck, so there must be an even worse word if the kids aren't allowed to hear it. Those were usually the questions my parents answered with, "We'll tell you when you're older." See, all the bleeping did was make me more curious to learn what the bleeped word was.

:smile: Even kids from my country know the f-word from a very young age. There really is no point in bleeping the word for TV when most school tables have the f-word carved into them. The authorities have to realize that most people are able lip-read.

Interestingly, the Malay equivalent of the f-word (according to an online dictionary), 'celaka', is taught at Bruneian schools.
 
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Interesting. TBS, isn't that the same network that bought and colorized all the classic black and white movies?
 
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OOOOOOO! you said celaka!
I'm tellin'!
 
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I hate TBS! But I ALWAYS watch it. there always seems to be a movie on that I want to watch. Half way through I am kicking myself because I have to watch 8 minute comercials containing those 3 TBS @$$holes make a 3 course meal.
 
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You know, you don't actually have to watch those commercials, don't you? :wink: The thing I don't like about watching movies on stations w/o commercial breaks is there's no chance to get up and get a snack or use the bathroom without missing something, so 8 min commercials don't seem so bad from that perspective. That's about how long it takes me to pop popcorn (I don't like the microwave kind).
 
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I've a bad habit of revising my schoolbooks in the living room with the TV switched on. Commercial breaks are the only time when I assimilate information from the books. I actually think that teachers invented it.
 
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manzaloros said:
Wait, wait, TRibdog. Why were you watching the Matrix, of all movies, on TBS, the channel who's motto is 'very funny'?

By the way, Star Wars Episode VI totally OWNS all of the Matrix movies (don't get me wrong, the MAtrix rules); you just can't beat a movie who's main line is "Now I am the master", spoken by one of the most famous villans in history.

The only show worth watching on TBS is Home Improvement.

Doesn't he say that in Episode IV to Obi-wan not, episode VI?

Its is a kick-ass line though.
 

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