Prove Limit n^(1/n) = 1 as n->oo

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The discussion revolves around proving the limit of n^(1/n) as n approaches infinity, specifically that it equals 1. Participants are exploring various methods and definitions related to limits, including the use of logarithms and epsilon-delta definitions.

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  • Participants discuss different approaches to proving the limit, including the application of logarithms and the epsilon definition of limits. There are questions about the validity of certain proofs and the handling of indeterminate forms.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering differing opinions on the correctness of initial proofs and suggesting alternative methods. There is no explicit consensus, but some guidance has been provided regarding the use of logarithms to simplify the problem.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of limits involving indeterminate forms and are questioning the assumptions made in previous proofs. There is an emphasis on the importance of careful treatment of these forms in limit calculations.

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Hi...
I have to prove that the limit as n->oo of n^(1/n) is 1
as n->oo (1/n)-> 0, which means that n^(1/n) ->1
i was wondering though if you could prove this differently using the definition of the limit ( with epsilon ) or maybe take derivatives..?

thanks
 
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Actually, your proof is wrong. Notice that your approach would also "prove" that

[tex] \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} n<br /> = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} (n^n)^{(1/n)}[/tex]

would also be 1.



Exponents are messy things -- try applying a logarithm to convert the problem into an easier one.
 
Hurkyl said:
Actually, your proof is wrong. Notice that your approach would also "prove" that

[tex] \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} n<br /> = \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} (n^n)^{(1/n)}[/tex]

would also be 1.



Exponents are messy things -- try applying a logarithm to convert the problem into an easier one.


actualy i think his proof is correct, but your limit is incorrect let me explain:
if you "go" with the limit into the exponent of N (you can do that because N is defined on whole R) the you get->
[tex] \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} n(1/n)[/tex]

n goes to infinity and 1/n goes to 0. But you always have to remember that oo is not a number its just a symbol so you cannot say that oo*0 is 0. 0*oo can be any R number even 1. Try to think about it, its a bit difficult but in the in the end its quite understandable
 
if you "go" with the limit into the exponent of N (you can do that because N is defined on whole R)

You might want to go rechcek the statement of the relevant limit theorems.
 
pa1o said:
actualy i think his proof is correct, but your limit is incorrect let me explain:

You've missed the point of Hurkyl's example and are missing your own advice on treating indeterminate limits with care. b0mb0nika had a limit of the indeterminate form [tex]\infty^{0}[/tex]. Because it was of this form he (wrongly) concluded that the limit would be 1. Hurkyl gave a limit of the form [tex]\infty^{0}[/tex] that is easily manipulated into a limit that is clearly not 1, showing the error in b0mb0nika's approach to limits of this type.

For the original limit try using log's as already suggested, [tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow \infty}n^{1/n}=\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}e^{\frac{1}{n}\log{n}}[/tex]

You should be able to find [tex]\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{1}{n}\log{n}[/tex] without too much trouble.
 

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