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Nov6-04, 12:28 PM
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Dark Knight1 is
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Extraterrestrial Weapons Ban
Wanna see something cool?
Goto http://thomas.loc.gov/
This is the website to the US Library of Congress. Goto the column marked Legislation and click on the link for Bill Text for 101st - 108th Congress. At the top of the next page, click on the link for the 107th Congress. Once at the 107th Congress page, in the Search Engine box marked Bill Number. type in HR 2977 and click search. This will take you to Proposed Bill HR 2977 of the First Session of the 107th US Congress. It was a bill Proposed to keep Outer Space free of Weapons.
Scroll down to the bottom and look at the listing of Exotic Weapons to be banned...what exactly are the Extraterrestrial Weapons? Psychotronic Devices? Climate Weapons (google a thing called HAARP for info on that).
The bill did not pass, by the way.
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Nov6-04, 03:50 PM
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I mean just curious, the ET Weapon, could that mean stuff WE send up?
What's the Psychotronic Weapon? Street? Chemtrails?
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Nov6-04, 08:00 PM
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Here's an article that sheds some light on the word "psychotronics:"
The term psychotronics is widespread--the
creation of various technical devices based on energy from a
bio-field, that is, a specific physical field existing around a
living organism. This is how the concept of psychotronic
weapons, created based on using paranormal properties of the
human organism, entered military terminology.
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It is difficult now to assess the consequences to which the
use of psychotronic weapons will lead. Many western experts,
including military analysts, assume that the country making the
first decisive breakthrough in this field will gain a
superiority over its enemy that is comparable only with the
monopoly of nuclear weapons. In the future, these type of
weapons may become the cause of illnesses or death of an object
(person), and without any risk to the life of the operator
(person emitting the command). Psychotronic weapons are silent,
difficult to detect, and require the efforts of one or several
operators as a source of power. Therefore, scientific and
military circles abroad are very concerned over a possible
"psychic invasion" and note the need to begin work on taking
corresponding countermeasures.
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LOL! Funny stuff!
Source: http://www.soci.niu.edu/~crypt/other/pavly.htm
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Nov7-04, 03:55 AM
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Dark Knight1 is
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Now what are you saying...we all have an energy field and the military has learned how to take it down using these devices?
If they are writing up bills including this stuff I have to believe they exist...OH, by the way, I was corrected elsewhere...the bill did in fact pass but it was diluted as to lose all original meaning.
Here's the mean excerpt for those of you that did not click on the 1-7th Congress and instead went to the 108th COngress HR 2977...which talks about baby changing stations:
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.
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Nov7-04, 07:54 PM
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Artorius: Do not see what is so funny about possible military psychotronic devices just read,look,listen about mkultra. An interesting recently published article about the statistics of power lines correlated to instances of cancer seems to show electromagnetic radiation in some frequencys? might well effect people. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1202453.stm it was on NHS website and some journal as well though I can not find them now (probably NHS got it from the first source).
EDIT: EDIT :/
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Nov7-04, 10:32 PM
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The bill sounds like it was written by a conspiracy theorist (that HAARP can control the weather is a one of the more absurd conspiracy theories). But it could also be that the senator who proposed it was worried about future capabilities. Ie, space-based weapons were banned before they were invented. Either way, it doesn't mean we have any of those capabilities.
usrename, that power lines cause cancer is a tabloid-style hoax, started, perpetuated, and milked for profit by a single reporter for 20+ years and picked-up on by other reporters and politicians. Most real scientists don't accept the conclusion and point out that correlation does not equal causation. There are other risk factors for cancer that can also be associated with power lines - like poverty. So do power lines cause poverty or does poverty cause cancer...?
I have occasionally used an EMF detector for my job, and its an interesting experience. The bottom line is that field strength drops off very quickly with distance: you get far, far more EMF exposure by watching your microwave pop popcorn or resting your laptop on your lap.
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Nov8-04, 06:49 AM
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Dark Knight1 is
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OK, I found this too, in the Times of London...I'll leave the link to the article at the bottom:
Brainwash victims win cash claims
Karin Goodwin
HUNDREDS of mentally ill patients who were subjected to barbaric CIA-funded brainwashing experiments by a Scottish doctor could be entitled to compensation following a landmark court ruling.
Doctor Ewan Cameron, who became one of the world’s leading psychiatrists, developed techniques used by Nazi scientists to wipe out the existing personalities of people in his care.
Cameron, who graduated from Glasgow University, was recruited by the CIA during the cold war while working at McGill University in Montreal, Canada.
He carried out mind-control experiments using drugs such as LSD on hundreds of patients, but only 77 of them were awarded compensation.
Now a landmark ruling by a Federal Court judge in Montreal will allow more than 250 former patients, whose claims were rejected, to seek compensation.
Gail Kastner, who underwent electroshock treatment at a Montreal psychiatric institute in 1953, and whose claim was rejected 10 years ago, successfully appealed the judgment.
Last week, Alan Stein, of Montreal law firm Stein and Stein, which represented Kastner, confirmed he was in the process of contacting former clients who could now renew their appeal.
“There are about 200 people still due compensation,” he said. “This judgment should send out strong signals to the Canadian government. Those who have previously missed out should have a strong case for appealing.”
Using techniques similar to those portrayed in the celebrated novel the Manchurian Candidate, it was believed that people could be brainwashed and reprogrammed to carry out specific acts.
Cameron developed a range of depatterning “treatments” while director of the Allan Memorial Institute at McGill University.
Patients were woken from drug-induced stupors two or three times a day for multiple electric shocks. In a specially designed “sleep room” made famous by Anne Collins’s book of the same name, Cameron placed a speaker under the patient’s pillow and relayed negative messages for 16 hours a day.
Kastner was a 19-year-old honours student suffering from mild depression when she first underwent “treatment” in 1953. On returning home she sucked her thumb, demanded to be fed from a bottle, talked in a baby voice and urinated on the floor.
She was ostracised by her affluent family, who were unable to cope with her changed state, and her marriage in 1955 quickly broke down due to her difficulties.
Cameron, who was born in Bridge of Allan in 1901, rose to become the first president of the World Psychiatric Association.
It took two decades and the persistence of Joseph Rauh, the distinguished American civil liberties lawyer, to uncover what happened and secure compensation for some of Cameron’s victims.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...313808,00.html
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Nov8-04, 11:20 AM
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Interesting (disturbing), but it has nothing to do with this bill. Forcing people to take acid doesn't constitute a mind control weapon.
Btw, I said HAARP is an absurd conspiracy theory: well, "chemtrails" are little short of moronic. I'm not a pshrink, but I'd seriously recommend anyone who believes in that to consult one.
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Nov8-04, 02:41 PM
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usrename, that power lines cause cancer is a tabloid-style hoax, started, perpetuated, and milked for profit by a single reporter for 20+ years and picked-up on by other reporters and politicians. Most real scientists don't accept the conclusion and point out that correlation does not equal causation. There are other risk factors for cancer that can also be associated with power lines - like poverty. So do power lines cause poverty or does poverty cause cancer...?
I have occasionally used an EMF detector for my job, and its an interesting experience. The bottom line is that field strength drops off very quickly with distance: you get far, far more EMF exposure by watching your microwave pop popcorn or resting your laptop on your lap.
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Well seems that this is what the latest study concluded. Still dont like the idea of working directly under one though.
This link I found has a lot of information about the subject for anybody interested.
http://www.mcw.edu/gcrc/cop/powerlin...r-FAQ/toc.html
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Nov8-04, 02:59 PM
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I know all about mind control try listening to the coast to coast radio show with art bell as you go to sleep every night for a month or two. You will soon start see some unusual effects lol
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Nov8-04, 05:13 PM
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I take it you didn't go to the Library of Congress Website? Or did you go to the baby changing station bill? Do you really believe a congressman would submit a bill protecting against imaginary wepaons (do you read popular science or popular mechanics?)
CIA has worked in different methods of Mind Control since the 50's, and if you actually read the article or know who Ewen Cameron is, they didn't feed the patients acid.
They kept the patients unconscious for most of the week, then woke them up just long enough to give them intensive electro shock therapy, way higher than normal. Then they were put out again.
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Nov8-04, 07:08 PM
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This is as far as I read, and its far enough:
the more recent epidemiological studies show little evidence that either power lines or "electrical occupations" are associated with an increase in cancer (see Q19);
laboratory studies have shown little evidence of a link between power-frequency fields and cancer (see Q16);
an extensive series of studies have shown what life-time exposure of animals to power-frequency magnetic fields does not cause cancer (see Q16B);
a connection between power line fields and cancer is physically implausible (see Q18).
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Originally Posted by Dark Knight1
I take it you didn't go to the Library of Congress Website? Or did you go to the baby changing station bill? Do you really believe a congressman would submit a bill protecting against imaginary wepaons (do you read popular science or popular mechanics?)
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I subscribe to PM and I read PS occasionally - and I absolutely believe a Congressman could be dumb enough to pass legislation about imaginary weapons: heck, we spent something like a $30 billion on Star Wars!
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Nov8-04, 08:50 PM
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I have read about the RF weaponry that is currently on Earth, and the potential to use the RF weaponry potential, in the haarp array. It is no secret that whole groups of individuals can be sickened and terrified by this stuff. There have been cattle deaths attributed to these experiments, and it is alleged that entire species can be killed by the use of their vital frequencies. There are wonderful new weapons, like the Silent Scream, and now microwave weapons that guard a perimeter by burning anyone that enters it. Dennis Kucinich, is a very bright American Senator, and knows what is up. I am sorry you have never heard of this stuff, since it is very interesting, and terrifying. Again, in Japan already, coke machines put sounds into the heads of passers by, this stuff is called Synthetic telepathy, by the individuals that don't like its potential for misuse.
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Nov8-04, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by russ_watters
This is as far as I read, and its far enough: I subscribe to PM and I read PS occasionally - and I absolutely believe a Congressman could be dumb enough to pass legislation about imaginary weapons: heck, we spent something like a $30 billion on Star Wars!
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Indeed. Given the amount of political riff-raff, its a wonder that some of these congressmen could make informed decisions on anything. In my government textbook there is an instance of a Representative getting up and saying "Mr. Speaker, what bill did we just pass?"
Originally Posted by Dayle Record
I have read about the RF weaponry that is currently on Earth, and the potential to use the RF weaponry potential, in the haarp array. It is no secret that whole groups of individuals can be sickened and terrified by this stuff. There have been cattle deaths attributed to these experiments, and it is alleged that entire species can be killed by the use of their vital frequencies. There are wonderful new weapons, like the Silent Scream, and now microwave weapons that guard a perimeter by burning anyone that enters it. Dennis Kucinich, is a very bright American Senator, and knows what is up. I am sorry you have never heard of this stuff, since it is very interesting, and terrifying. Again, in Japan already, coke machines put sounds into the heads of passers by, this stuff is called Synthetic telepathy, by the individuals that don't like its potential for misuse.
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When will humanity ever learn to stop making these weapons of war and destruction?
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Nov8-04, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dayle Record
I am sorry you have never heard of this stuff....
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You misunderstand: I have heard of all of this stuff. But I'm an engineer and pretty well up on what our current level of technology is. People who tend to believe this kind of thing believe it because to them, pretty much all technology looks like magic anyway. They don't see the difference between a microwave oven, a radar, a microwave weapon (nothing but power output between those 3), and Star Wars (a $30 billion boondoggle in the '80s that just now is starting to become feasible).
The media (like Popular Science) is partially responsible for this, because they tell interesting stories that don't necessarily connect with reality. For some reason, this is more true when reporting science than anything else. Ever hear someone say "where the heck is my flying car??@!?"? You know why people say that? Because "Popular Science" has run flying car stories almost once a year since the '60s. They have never been feasible and they still aren't - but if "Popular Science" says they're coming (hopefully, by the mid -80s  ), its gotta be true, right? Right...?
Also, people who consider all weapons to be inherrently evil refuse to accept (or just plain don't understand) the difference between different weapons. There is a real morality issue with "non-lethal" weapons, but you don't see it.
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