Does Good Increase in the World? Examining Laws Impact

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The discussion revolves around the concept of "good" in the world and whether its increase is a result of societal laws or a genuine rise in altruistic behavior. Participants explore the interplay between legal frameworks and individual actions, considering both theoretical and practical implications.

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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that societal order, enforced by laws, contributes to an increase in "good," though they express skepticism about how to articulate this relationship.
  • Others argue that both laws and individual actions contribute to societal good, citing examples of everyday kindness as evidence of this dual influence.
  • One participant posits that a comfortable society fosters good actions while also suppressing bad ones, but warns that this comfort can be threatened, leading to a resurgence of negative behaviors.
  • A later reply questions the extent to which individuals truly feel comfortable in society, implying that this comfort may not be universal.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that conventional definitions of goodness may align with cooperative hedonism, prompting further exploration of what constitutes "good action."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; multiple competing views on the relationship between laws and the increase of good remain, with ongoing debate about the definitions and implications of "good."

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the definitions of "good" and "comfortable society," and there are unresolved questions regarding the impact of societal laws on individual behavior.

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Does "good" increase in the world or do the laws we make, make it appear that way?

A schoolgirl hit me with this question today and I thought it was a unique way of looking at the world. What say yee? :confused:
 
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Awkward question. :/

I am tempted to say that good does in fact increase by means of order. But i am still sceptical of how to explain it.
 
personally, i'd have to say its a bit of both. the laws deter people from taking legal matters into their own hands, but also people tend to help others out a little more. if a person needs directions (an example given earlier somewhere in this forum) , or if someone opens a door for someone else, they are being nice. so i guess you could look at both adding to the good we have in society.
 
I think that comfortable society encourages good action and discourages bad ones. But let that comfort be threatened, and bad rises up. It is never done away with. Who in 1994 would have supposed the US in 2004 would be having a debate about whether to use torture?
 
Does "good" increase in the world or do the laws we make, make it appear that way?

Both. To increase "good" in the world people and the laws need to change. After all, laws are as good as the people who make and enforce them.
 
selfAdjoint said:
I think that comfortable society encourages good action and discourages bad ones.


how many people actually feel very comfortable because of society though?
 
Is goodness conventionally defined really cooperative hedonism

selfAdjoint said:
I think that comfortable society encourages good action and discourages bad ones.
Do you, when you refer to good action, mean cooperatively hedonistic action?
 

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