Pulling a Tablecloth from Under a Steel Ball

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The problem involves a tablecloth being pulled from under a steel ball resting on a horizontal table, with the ball experiencing motion due to friction as the cloth is removed. The focus is on determining the ball's speed when it reaches a state of rolling without slipping.

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  • Participants discuss the effects of friction on the ball's motion and its transition from slipping to rolling without slipping. There are considerations about the relationship between the speed of the tablecloth and the ball, as well as the role of angular momentum.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants are questioning assumptions about the relationship between the speeds of the cloth and the ball, while others are considering the mechanics involved in the transition to rolling without slipping.

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There are no numerical values provided in the problem, which adds to the challenge of formulating a solution. Participants express uncertainty about the setup and the implications of the physics involved.

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Ok so I'm guessing my TA made up this problem on his own so I don't know how to start, considering there are no numbers and lol I just love having numbers to work with. Anyways here goes.

A tablecloth covers a horizontal table and a steel ball lies on top of it. The tablecloth is pulled from under the ball (in a perfectly horizontal fashion), and friction causes the ball to move and roll. What is the ball's speed on the table when it reaches a state of rolling without slipping? Assume that the table is large enough that the ball does not fall off of it.

Help! :eek:
 
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As the table cloth is pulled from under it, friction makes the ball start to roll. Assuming this takes place long enough, the ball will start spinning with the same speed as the table cloth is pulled. Once the cloth is gone, it will touch the table and slow down a little because its now slipping. Once its slow enough for friction to get it moving, it should move with a little less than the speed at which the table cloth was pulled. I am guessing though.
 
thanks for your thoughts, hope someone else has an idea
 
You must be primarily concerned of the system where 1) friction allows the ball to accelerate without slipping, or where the slipping involves either 2) a typical critical frictional "breakaway" from static to kinetic friction or 3) the sphere experiences a quantity of torque from the tablecloth divided by the moment of inertia that exceeds the acceleration at point of contact.
 
well as of now I'm assuming that the speed the cloth is pulled is equal to the speed of the rolling ball, but from there I'm lost.
 
If the ball is rolling without slipping then wouldn't the angular momentum just be equal to Vcm/R?
 
This is an interesting question. Can somebody please set a question related to this one. Anything will do. I just want to see how this question could be asked. My final exam is impending. I'm thinking that my lecturer might design all the weird questions for us. Thanks
 

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