Is the Tangent Function Surjective on Its Defined Interval?

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The discussion revolves around whether the tangent function, defined on the open interval \(-\frac{\pi}{2}, \frac{\pi}{2}\), is surjective onto the real numbers. Participants explore various approaches to demonstrate surjectivity, considering the implications of the function's continuity and limits.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about demonstrating the surjectivity of the tangent function on its defined interval, noting the challenge posed by the open interval.
  • Another participant suggests working directly with the definition of surjectivity and finding preimages for every element in the range.
  • A different participant emphasizes the continuity of the tangent function and discusses the behavior of the function as it approaches the endpoints of the interval, particularly the limit as \(x\) approaches \(\frac{\pi}{2}\) from the left, indicating that all large numbers are achieved.
  • This participant also mentions that by the intermediate value theorem, values between -1 and 1 are achieved, suggesting that the function covers all real numbers.
  • Another participant proposes considering the closed interval \([a, b]\) as a subset of the domain and suggests extending the function continuously to the extended real line, which could alter the range considerations.

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Participants express differing views on the sufficiency of various arguments for proving surjectivity, with no consensus reached on the best approach or whether certain steps are necessary.

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Participants note the limitations of the open interval and the implications of continuity and limits, but do not resolve the mathematical steps or assumptions involved in the proofs discussed.

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How can I show the function [itex]f:]-\frac{\pi}{2},\frac{\pi}{2}[ \rightarrow R[/itex] defined by [itex]f(x)=tan(x)[/itex] is surjective?

If the domain was a closed interval I could use the intermediate value theorem, but now?

Thank you.
 
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Try working directly with the definition. Can you find a preimage for every object in the range of f?
 
The domain can't be the closed interval, so I don't see how that would help. tan(x) is not defined when x = [itex]\pi / 2[/itex]. Anyways, you know that it is continuous. You know that the limit as x approaches [itex]\pi /2[/itex] from the left is [itex]\infty[/itex] and by the definition of the limit, you can argue that "all the big numbers" are achieved by f. The definition of such a limit says that for any N, you can find a [itex]\delta[/itex] such that for all x in [itex](\pi /2 - \delta, \pi /2)[/itex], f(x) > N. Since you can choose any N, you can show that all the numbers greater than all N are achieved. Choose N to be something simple like 1. You can also show that the values 1 and -1 are achieved, and by intermediate value theorem, all numbers in (-1, 1) are thus achieved. Finally, the you know the limit as x approaches [itex]\pi /2[/itex] from the right and argue in a similar fashion that all numbers less than 1 are achieved. I'm not sure, but the last few steps might be superfluous. It might be sufficient to show that f is continuous and the left-hand limit as x approaches [itex]\pi / 2[/itex] is [itex]\infty[/itex]. I'm not sure. The above, I believe, is enough to prove it, if not too much.
 
Ah, right, I may have been answering the question at the wrong level.


One thing you might consider is that if a and b are in the domain of f, then the closed interval [a, b] is a subset of the domain of f.


If you're familiar with the extended real line, then you could extend f continuously to [-pi/2, pi/2] as a function whose range is the extended real line, rather than the reals.
 

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