Proving a force is conservative (via path integrals)

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The discussion focuses on proving that the force function F = ix + jy is conservative by demonstrating that the integral \(\int F \cdot dr\) is path-independent. Two specific paths are analyzed: the line x = y and a two-segment path along the x-axis to (1,0) and then vertically to (1,1). Both calculations yield a work done of 1, confirming the force's conservative nature. The user initially misapplied the integral formula but corrected their approach after community feedback.

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It's always the easy questions that get me stuck...

For some reason, I'm having a mental block on how to answer this one:

Consider the force function:
F = ix + jy
Verify that it is conservative by showing that the integral,
[tex]\int F \cdot dr[/tex]
is independent of the path of integration by taking two paths in which the starting point is the origin (0,0), and the endpoint is (1,1). For one path take the line x = y. For the other path take the x-axis out to the point (1,0) and then the line x = 1 up to the point (1,1).

Now I've already verified that it is conserved by taking the curl of F, but I can't seem to come to a similar conclusion using the path integrals. Can someone help me out with this one? At the very least, if I could see the integrals themselves for each path, perhaps I could figure out where I've made my mistake. Thanks.
 
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cyberdeathreaper said:
It's always the easy questions that get me stuck...

For some reason, I'm having a mental block on how to answer this one:

Consider the force function:
F = ix + jy
Verify that it is conservative by showing that the integral,
[tex]\int F \cdot dr[/tex]
is independent of the path of integration by taking two paths in which the starting point is the origin (0,0), and the endpoint is (1,1). For one path take the line x = y. For the other path take the x-axis out to the point (1,0) and then the line x = 1 up to the point (1,1).

Do not forget that the work is the integral of the scalar product of force and displacement .

[tex]W = \int_{(0,0)}^{(1,1)} \vec F \cdot \vec dr = \int (F_xdx+F_ydy)=\int_{(0,0)}^{(1,1)}(xdx+ydy)[/tex]

For the first path, y = x and dy = dx.
[tex]W= \int _0^1{2xdx}=1[/tex]

To calculate the work along the second path, we integrate along the x-axis first, than along the vertical line at x=1.

[tex]\int_{(0,0)}^{(1,1)}(xdx+ydy)=\int_{(0,0)}^{(1,1)}xdx +\int_{(0,0)}^{(1,1)}ydy=0.5*[x^2]_0^1+0.5*[y^2]_0^1=1[/tex]

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Thank's so much... I see what I was doing wrong now.

Specifically, instead of
[tex]\int (F_xdx+F_ydy)[/tex]
I had been using
[tex]\int ((F_x + F_y) dx dy)[/tex]

Thanks again. :smile:
 

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