How to find limits of sequences involving products and sums?

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The discussion revolves around finding limits of sequences involving products and sums, specifically focusing on three different limits presented by the initial poster. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and exploratory approaches to limit evaluation.

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  • Exploratory
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • The first limit involves a product of terms of the form \(1 - \frac{1}{i^2}\), and the initial poster seeks guidance on how to approach such limits.
  • One participant suggests rewriting the kth term as \(\frac{k^2-1}{k^2}\) and factoring the numerator, hinting at a potentially simpler form.
  • Another participant proposes expressing the product in terms of factors and suggests that this form may reveal useful properties.
  • The second limit involves an alternating sum, and participants discuss finding a general form for the sum \(S_n = 1 - 2 + 3 - \ldots + (-1)^{n-1}n\), with hints about considering cases for odd and even \(n\).
  • For the third limit, a suggestion is made to use partial fractions on the terms of the series and to analyze the first few terms for insights.
  • A later reply expresses a guess that the limit of the first product might be \(3/4\), indicating a personal conclusion rather than a consensus.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present various methods and hints for approaching the limits, but there is no consensus on the final values or methods to be used. The discussion remains exploratory with multiple viewpoints and approaches being shared.

Contextual Notes

Some participants provide hints and suggestions without resolving the mathematical steps or assumptions involved in the limits. The discussion reflects a range of strategies without definitive conclusions.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in mathematical limits, particularly in sequences involving products and sums, may find the various approaches and hints shared in this discussion beneficial.

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Hi all, I tried to do this limit, but didn't find a way:

[tex] \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( 1 - \frac{1}{2^2} \right) \left( 1 - \frac{1}{3^2} \right) ... \left( 1 - \frac{1}{n^2} \right) [/tex]

I tried to use theorems I know so far, but it didn't lead to success. Will somebody help how to do these kinds of limits (I know there is no general rule, just some advice what should I try when I'm asked to find limits of such sequences)

The same case is with:

[tex] \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \left( \frac{1}{n} - \frac{2}{n} + \frac{3}{n} - ... + \frac{(-1)^{n-1}n}{n} \right)[/tex]

or

[tex] \lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} \sum_{k=1}^{n} \frac{1}{k(k + 1)}[/tex]

I hope I will be able to go on with a small hint...

Thank you.
 
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For the first limit, try writing the kth term as [tex]\frac{k^2-1}{k^2}[/tex]. Factor the numerator (difference of squares). Now write out the first 4 or 5 terms of your product in this form. Notice anything nice?

For the second, consider the sum [tex]S_n=1-2+3-...+(-1)^{n-1}n[/tex] Can you find a general form for[tex]S_n[/tex]? Write out the first few terms if need be. Hint:what is it when n is odd? even? Try writing n=2k or n=2k+1 respectively for n even/odd. You should be a step closer to your limit now.

For your third series, try partial fractions on the terms. Write out the first few terms and what do you see?
 
For your first:
[tex]\prod_{i=2}^{n}(1-\frac{1}{i^{2}})=\prod_{i=2}^{n}(\frac{(i+1)(i-1)}{i^{2}})[/tex]
This ought to be a rather suggestive form...

EDIT:
Arrgh..I was beaten.
 
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shmoe said:
For the first limit, try writing the kth term as [tex]\frac{k^2-1}{k^2}[/tex]. Factor the numerator (difference of squares). Now write out the first 4 or 5 terms of your product in this form. Notice anything nice?

That's great, now I can guess the limit is 3/4. Thank you!
 

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