Calculating Total Energy in a Pulley System: Kinetic vs. Potential Energy

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The discussion revolves around a lab problem involving a pulley system where a hanging mass is connected to a cart on an air track. The focus is on calculating and comparing kinetic and potential energy within the system, considering the conservation of energy principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the equations for kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy, questioning how to incorporate the movement of the cart into the energy calculations. There is an emphasis on understanding energy conservation in the system.

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Some participants have provided guidance on considering both forms of energy and the need to account for the potential energy of the cart. Multiple interpretations of how to approach the calculations are being explored, with a focus on ensuring that total energy remains constant throughout the motion.

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There is mention of negligible friction in the system, and participants are navigating the challenge of including all relevant energies in their calculations. The original poster expresses difficulty in factoring the cart's movement into the energy comparison.

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I am having a lot of trouble with a lab problem where a hanging mass is attached via a pulley to a cart, the friction is assumed negligible as the cart is on an air track. The cart is released and the hanging mass drops, pulling the cart along. I can't seem to find the right equations to include the cart into the system and compare the kinetic energy to the potential energy.
For the kinetic energy part I am using this equation:[tex]Ke= \frac{1}{2}(m_1 + m_2)V^2[/tex]
 
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That's good. Keep in mind that the mass has gravitational potential energy equal to mgh. The total energy of the system should be conserved (assuming no friction) throughout its motion. What specifically are you trying to determine?
 
The object is to compare the two forms of energy and show how no energy is lost in the conversion from potential to kinetic. When I've worked the numbers I can't seem to figure out how to factor in the movement of the cart due to the potential energy of the hanging mass and if I don't it doesn't seem to come out right.
 
The cart also has potential energy (I forgot about that). You are trying to prove that total energy of the system (kinetic + gravitational potential) is constant. You can find the potential energy using the equation (I don't think you can do it experimentally), then use the formula you stated earlier for kinetic energy to find that (also making use of some data collected in the lab). Calculate total energy for the initial state of the system, and for after the mass is allow to drop, then compare.
 

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