Angular momentum of a merry-go-round

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The discussion revolves around the concept of angular momentum, specifically in the context of a merry-go-round and a door impacted by a bullet. The original poster presents two problems involving the conservation of angular momentum in different scenarios, seeking clarification on the application of the principles involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of angular momentum to both problems but expresses uncertainty about calculating the moment of inertia for John and the resulting angular velocity after he jumps onto the merry-go-round. They also question the expected behavior of the system's angular velocity after the interaction.
  • Some participants suggest treating John as a particle and using the formula for moment of inertia, while also emphasizing the conservation of angular momentum in both scenarios.
  • Others raise concerns about unit consistency, particularly the need for angular momentum to be expressed in radians per second.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations and approaches to the problems. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of moment of inertia and the importance of unit conversion, but no consensus has been reached on the correct method or final answers.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of angular momentum conservation in inelastic collisions and rotational dynamics, with specific attention to the assumptions made about the system's components and their interactions. There is an acknowledgment of potential confusion surrounding the expected outcomes of the scenarios presented.

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1) A merry-go-round is a common piece of playground equipment. A 3.0-m-diameter merry-go-round with a mass of 250 kg is spinning at 20 rpm. John runs tangent to the merry-go-round at 5.0 m/s, in the same direction that it is turning, and jumps onto the outer edge. John's mass is 30 kg. What is the merry-go-round's angular velocity, in rpm, after John jumps on?

i know how to solve it i could find the moment of inertia for john but i don't think that is easy to do. since the rotation is about an axis of symmetry, the angular momentum L = I*omega is parallel to omega. so all of the angular momentums will be the same. i had L_final = I_disk*omega_f + I_john*omega_f = L_i = I_disk*omega_i.
but again I am not sure how to find the moment of inertia for john or even if this is the correct method to go about this.

2) A 10 g bullet traveling at 400 m/s strikes a 10 kg, 1.0-m-wide door at the edge opposite the hinge. The bullet embeds itself in the door, causing the door to swing open. What is the angular velocity of the door just after impact?

i know this is an inelastic collision and i could find the velocity of the door after the impact but am not sure how to find the angular velocity since it is connected to the door.

any help appreciated.
 
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Both questions look like conservation of angular momentum.

For the first one, I think you may have to treat john as a particle and make his moment of inertia mr^2. At the beginning john has angular momentum, so your initial angular momentum would be: I_disk*omega_f + I_john*omega_john. Also, keep in mind, the final angular velocity of both john and the ferris wheel are the same.

For two, again angular momentum is conserved. Try to find an expression for the initial angular momentum of the door and the bullet and also the final. Btw, angular momentum is conserved because the bullet does not apply a constant torque.
 
ok for the first question, i have the initial angular momentum as (1/2)(m_disk)(radius)^2*(omega_i) + m_john*radius^2*(omega_john){which using v = r*omega, i get v/r}/ (1/2)*m_disk*radius^2 + m_john*radius^2. after doing that, i still get the wrong answer. should the disk spin faster after john gets on or slower? i would think it would be faster but i was getting a slower answer. am i doing this wrong still or not?
the answer i got was 16.77 rpm but that's wrong.
 
Make sure you are using the right units. The angular momentum must be in radians/sec.
 

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