Solving Displacement Without Time

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The original poster attempts to derive an equation for displacement that does not involve time, using the equations for displacement and final velocity under constant acceleration.

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  • Some participants suggest combining the given equations to eliminate time, while others question whether additional formulas can be used. There is also a discussion about the definitions of initial and final velocity.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering suggestions for combining equations and expressing uncertainty about the constraints of the task. There is no explicit consensus on the approach, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

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There is a mention of a deadline for the assignment, and some participants express concern about the allowed use of formulas beyond those provided.

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We are supposed to derive an equation that solves for displacement that does not use time. We can use these two equations. d(t) = vit + 1/2 at squared. or d(t) = 1/2 (vit + vft) t

It's due tomorrow. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Should be a piece o'cake. You have:

d=vit+(1/2)at2

and you also have:

vf=vi+at.

Try to combine those to get the equation you are looking for. If you get stuck, show us how you started and we will help you from there.
 
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I'm not sure if I decoded the equation lines very well... but i think this is how you do it.

Take the second equation and solve for time and then substitute that equation into the first equation and that will get rid of the time.

If I'm not helping at all, watch... (^2 is squared)

d= 1/2 (vit + vft) t (expand t)
= 1/2 (vit^2 + vft^2) (pull out t^2)
= 1/2 t^2 (vi + vf) (multiply both sides by 2)
2d = t^2 (vi +vf) (some rearranging)
t= the square root of (2d /vi+vf)

Now, wherever there is a t in the first equation, substitute the equation that you found...

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I hope that is right ...
 
Tom, I'm not sure that she is allowed to use any other formulas either than the two she is given... Do you agree with my work?
 
I assume vi = v(intial) and vf = v(final), usually v(initial) is denoted as 'u' and v(final) as 'v'.

It's a very simple equation, it's a simple case of re-arranging one of the equations and substitung it into the other, you should be able to do it yourself but for your reference the answer is:

d = (v2/2 - uv)/a
 

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