Convergent field, divergent potential?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the calculation of the electric field and potential due to an infinitely long charged rod, exploring different methods of integration and the implications of infinite limits on potential. It includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests three methods to calculate the electric field from an infinite line of charge, noting that methods one and two yield consistent results, while method three leads to a divergent integral.
  • Another participant points out that when dealing with infinite objects, it is customary to avoid integrating over the entire length due to the potential becoming infinite, advocating for a potential per unit length approach.
  • A participant questions the concept of 'potential per unit length', seeking clarification on how this is defined and its dependence on the position along the rod.
  • Another participant states that for an infinite rod, the potential is confined to a plane and depends on the distance from the rod, with contributions from out-of-plane sources canceling out.
  • It is mentioned that while the electric field remains finite, the potential referenced to infinity is not finite, suggesting that potential differences are what matter and proposing to set the potential at a specific distance to zero.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how to handle the potential of an infinite charged rod, with some advocating for a potential per unit length and others emphasizing the divergence of potential when integrating over infinite limits. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the integration limits and the definitions of potential per unit length. The discussion also highlights the unresolved mathematical steps involved in calculating the potential and electric field.

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If you want to calculate the electric field at a distance r from a line of infinite length and uniform charge density you could one of three things:

1. Employ symmetry and Gauss' law.
2. Use superposition and integrate from minus to plus infinity along the rod.
3. Integrate to find the potential and differentiate.

1. and 2. work fine and unsurprisingly give the same result. But when I try 3., I get an integral of the form:
[tex]\int^{\infty}_{-\infty} \frac{b ds}{\sqrt{a^2 + s^2}}[/tex]
Equal to an inverse sinh, which diverges, surely impossible to differentiate. Why is this?
 
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When working with infinite extent object like a charged rod, it is cutomary to not integrate over then entire length because the potential will become infinite. What you want to do is because of symmetry, leave out the 3rd integration and obtain a potential per unit length.

Set up the equations for potential, and only do it in 2-d.
 
What do you mean by a 'potential per unit length'? Length of the line/rod? This changes according to where this unit length is. Thanks - please clarify.
 
if the rod is infinite in extent, the potential is in a plane only and depends on the distance from the rod. Out of the plane contributions cancel.
 
The electric field is finite, but the potential, if referenced to infinity, is not finite. Since only potential differences are important anyway, just declare the potential at some distance R to be zero.
 

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