What was the speed of the Toyota at impact in this collision?

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The discussion revolves around a collision problem involving a Toyota and a Cadillac, focusing on determining the speed of the Toyota at impact. The scenario includes details about the masses of the vehicles, the distance they skid after the collision, and the coefficient of kinetic friction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and attempt to apply it to the problem. There are questions about how to incorporate the coefficient of friction into their calculations. Some participants suggest assumptions about the collision dynamics, such as the locking of bumpers and the treatment of the vehicles as a single object post-collision.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and sharing various approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of physics principles, but no consensus has been reached on a specific method or solution.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the problem as posed, including the assumption of a locked collision and the effects of friction on the vehicles' motion. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify how to effectively use the given coefficient of friction in their calculations.

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A 1.0x10^3 kg Toyota collides into the rear end of a 2.2x10^3 kg Cadillac stopped at a red light. The bumpers lock, the brakes are locked, and the two cars skid forward 2.8m before stopping. The police officer, knowing that the coefficient of Kinectic friction between the tires and road is 0.40, calculates the speed of the Toyota at impact. What was that speed?
 
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Exactly what have you tried so far?

HINT: Momentum is conserved!
 
ok i tried using this formula:
m1v1 + m2v2 = (m1 + m2) v(final)
m1v2 + m2v2 = (m1 + m2) times the square root of 2gd (gravity and distance)
then i isolated for v1 but i don't know how to apply the coefficient of friction to the problem...
 
I think you need to assume that the two cars instantly lock up and become a single object when the collision occurs (i.e. ignore the "crumple zone" and assume the vehicles cover no distance while becoming locked together.)

The combined system decelerates at the rate [itex]\mu g[/itex] (frictional force divided by mass) so you can relate the initial speed to the distance traveled before stopping with

[tex]V_0 = \sqrt {2 \mu g d}[/tex]

You also know that

[tex]V_0 = \frac {m_1 v_1}{m_1+m_2}[/tex]
 

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