Integrate ∫sin(sin(x)) dx - What is It?

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The discussion revolves around the integral ∫sin(sin(x)) dx, with participants questioning its classification as an elementary function and exploring its properties.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the integral, with some suggesting it may not have a name or a known solution. There are mentions of expressing the integrand as a Taylor series and the potential for special naming of certain integrals.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing thoughts on the limitations of Mathematica in solving the integral and questioning the validity of its output. There is no consensus on the integral's classification or naming.

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Participants reference the challenge of integrating functions that are not elementary and the implications of such classifications in mathematical discourse.

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What is ∫sin(sin(x)) dx ?

I was told that it was not an elementary function. Then what function is it?
 
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kahwawashay1 said:
What is ∫sin(sin(x)) dx ?

I was told that it was not an elementary function. Then what function is it?

I don't think it has a name yet. Do you want to name it?
 
Dick said:
I don't think it has a name yet. Do you want to name it?

Haha how can it not be already named? Can't someone solve it?
 
kahwawashay1 said:
Haha how can it not be already named? Can't someone solve it?
Solve what?

You've been told that it's not an elementary function.

About the best that can be done is to express the integrand as a Taylor series, the integrate that.
 
kahwawashay1 said:
Haha how can it not be already named? Can't someone solve it?

Some integrals that can't be expressed as elementary functions are useful enough that they are given special names. E.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_integral Not being able to 'solve' something doesn't it isn't useful or that there is nothing you can say about it.
 
Dick said:
Some integrals that can't be expressed as elementary functions are useful enough that they are given special names. E.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_integral Not being able to 'solve' something doesn't it isn't useful or that there is nothing you can say about it.

ohhh
But I just downloaded Mathematica, and when I integrate sin(sin(x)), it gives me: (1/2)(sin2(x2))
But I can't see how taking the derivative of that gives sinsinx
Is Mathematica wrong then?
 
kahwawashay1 said:
ohhh
But I just downloaded Mathematica, and when I integrate sin(sin(x)), it gives me: (1/2)(sin2(x2))
But I can't see how taking the derivative of that gives sinsinx
Is Mathematica wrong then?

Nvmmm I typed in the sin function in wrong format lol
 
And even the mighty Mathematica who knows the work of Gradsheyn and Rytzhik by heart couldn't do it...
 

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