Determining the Inverse of 1/(-3y+9): x≠3

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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse of the function \( f(y) = \frac{1}{-3y + 9} \) with the condition that \( x \neq 3 \). Participants express confusion regarding the manipulation of the equation and the implications of the numerator in the context of determining the inverse function.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore various methods for finding the inverse, including swapping variables and solving for \( y \). Questions arise about the correct interpretation of the function and the steps involved in the algebraic manipulation. Some participants express uncertainty about whether the inverse is a function and how to verify it.

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The discussion is active, with multiple participants providing insights and alternative approaches. Some guidance has been offered regarding checking the correctness of inverses through graphical symmetry and algebraic verification. However, there is no explicit consensus on the final form of the inverse function, and confusion remains about specific algebraic steps.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the implications of the numerator and the conditions under which the original function is defined. The discussion reflects a range of interpretations and methods, highlighting the complexity of the problem.

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1/(-3y+9) x cannot = 3 is the inverse y=(x+1/9)/(1/-3)? The 1 in the numerator is confusing me also how will I know if the inverse is a function?
 
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That doesn't look right. When you find the inverse, you can check that you did it right by evaluating f-1(f(x)). It should come out to x. If it doesn't, that means your inverse is wrong.
 
There are two easy ways to check.
Are the graphs of those functions symetrical about y=x? If so they are inverses.
AND EVEN EASIER
An inverse should have the x and y values of the original function switched.
Thats how one finds inverses: by switching x with y and solving for y.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by y=(x+1/9)/(1/-3). Is that "x plus 1/9 divided by -1/3? If so, then it is easier to write it as -3(x+ 1/9)= -3x- 1/3.
If so, then, for example, if x= 1, then y= -3(1)- 1/3)= -3- 1/3= -10/3. And then
1/(-3((-10/3)+9) = 1/(10+9)= 1/19, not 1. So the two functions are certainly NOT inverse to one another.

What you do to find the inverse of a function like this is to "swap" x and y.
Your original function is y= -3x- 1/3. To find the inverse, swap x and y:
x= -3y- 1/3. Now solve for y: x+ 1/3= -3y so y= (-1/3)x- 1/9. Notice the negative signs!
 
I know how to find the inverse but the 1 in the numerator is confusing me, I don't know how to solve for y after switching x and y. f(x)=1/(-3y+9) how do i get rid of the numerator? Also since the denominator can be factored should I, or do i not have to? :cry:
 
first of all, it should be x=1/(-3y+9). Then you solve for y by multiplying both sides by (-3y+9). then divide by x. then subtract 9 from both sides and divide both sides by -3. you should get y=(-3/x)-9. :wink:
 
t_unit92003 said:
first of all, it should be x=1/(-3y+9). Then you solve for y by multiplying both sides by (-3y+9). then divide by x. then subtract 9 from both sides and divide both sides by -3. you should get y=(-3/x)-9. :wink:

I did all of that and I understand it well, but my answer is y=(x-9)/-3 or -3(x-9) how is the answer (-3/x)-9? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
How can you do "all of that" and "understand it well" and not know whether the answer is (x-9)/(-3) or -3(x-9)?

Your original function was y= 1/(-3x+ 9). Swapping x and y gives x= 1/(-3y+ 9)

That is the same as x(-3y+9)= 1 or, as t unit92003 said, -3y+ 9= 1/x. Subtracting 9 from both sides gives -3y= 1/x- 9 so y= (1/x- 9)/(-3)= 3- 1/(3x), not the (-3/x)- 9 that t unit92003 then gave.
 
I GOT UP TO THE LAST STEP, y=(1/x-9)/-3 Can someone please tell me how this became 3-1/(3x)? This is the only part I am stuck on now please help me understand this please... :cry:
 
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You did the algebra correctly but couldn't do the arithmetic?? :smile:

(1/x- 9)/(-3)= (1/x)/(-3)- 9/(-3) by the "distributive property".

(1/x)/(-3)= -1/(3x) and -9/(-3)= 3.

(1/x- 9)/(-3)= (1/x)/(-3)- 9/(-3)= -1/(3x)+ 3= 3- 1/(3x).
 
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THANKS FINALLY AFTER A LONG TIME OF TRYING I GOT IT! I had another question like that and was able to solve it thanks again everyone, esp Mentor. :smile:
 

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