Feather vs Anchor: Drop Test Explained

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of a feather and an anchor when dropped from the same height, particularly focusing on the effects of air resistance and gravity in different environments, such as a vacuum and space. Participants explore the implications of these factors on the timing of their descent.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that in a vacuum, both the feather and anchor will fall at the same speed and hit the ground simultaneously, regardless of their mass.
  • Others argue that in everyday conditions, the feather is slowed down by air resistance, causing it to hit the ground after the anchor.
  • One participant introduces the idea that even in a vacuum, the anchor may hit the ground slightly before the feather due to gravitational effects, although this difference is negligible for small objects.
  • Another participant clarifies that gravity exists everywhere, including space, and that air is absent in a vacuum, which leads to different behaviors of objects when dropped.
  • There is a discussion about the relationship between gravity and air, with some participants emphasizing that they should not be conflated.
  • One participant mentions the concept of weightlessness in space, attributing it to gravity rather than the absence of it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that air resistance affects the feather's descent in everyday conditions, but there are competing views regarding the effects of gravity in a vacuum and the implications for timing of impacts. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the minute gravitational effects on the timing of the feather and anchor's descent.

Contextual Notes

Some statements depend on specific definitions of vacuum and gravity, and there are unresolved nuances regarding the effects of mass and distance on gravitational interactions.

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hey guys, if i drop 2 objects at the same height, regardless of mass they will drop at the same time. but if i drop a anchor and a feather, isn't there anything holding up the feather to make it drop later than the anchor?
 
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Yes. Air slows the feather. But drop them both in a vacuum and they will fall at the same speed.
 
Both will hit the ground at the same time if they are dropped from the same height in a vacuum. In daily life, an anchor hits before the feather because the feather is slowed down by air resistance more than the anchor is.

Edit: Krab posted at the same time as I did.
 
Technically even in a vacuum the achor hits just a tiny bit before the feather, since it pulls the Earth toward its more than the feather does. For objects this small, and realtive small distances, you probably can't measure the difference. but take a feather and something the size of the moon, from about 200,000 miles away from the earth, and the moon and the Earth will collide first.
 
Jeff Reid said:
Technically even in a vacuum the achor hits just a tiny bit before the feather, since it pulls the Earth toward its more than the feather does. For objects this small, and realtive small distances, you probably can't measure the difference. but take a feather and something the size of the moon, from about 200,000 miles away from the earth, and the moon and the Earth will collide first.

But I thought there was no gravity/air in space.
 
There is gravity everywhere but air is not.From what i know,interstelar/intergalactic space is the best possible example of thermodynamic "vacuum".There's about one particle (never mind what kind) every cubic kilometer of space... :wink: He wanted to say that,for comparable masses of the 2 objects,the CM of the system would not coincide with the heavier one's and so,the time until impact would be smaller for the body with heavier mass.However,for planetary systems,the celestial bodies do not come crashing into each other according to Newton's attraction law,as the the gravity force is balanced by the centrifugue inertial force,the two forces balancing each other in an noninertial reference frame.

Daniel.
 
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It is the Earth's gravitation which keeps the moon in orbit, the suns which keeps the Earth and all the planets in orbit. Beyond that the sun is orbiting the center of the galaxy. Gravity is a weak force but very long ranged.

You cannot speak of air and gravity as if they are related. Space is a vacume, this means that there are very few molecules or atoms per cubic meter. The particles which are there are effected by gravity.
 
ConcealedDreamer said:
But I thought there was no gravity/air in space.
There is, of course, gravity in space - its what keeps the Earth orbiting the sun and moon orbiting the earth. What you're probably thinking of is the weightlessness of astronauts - that's due to gravity as well! If you're in space, the Earth's gravity is keeping you in constant freefall and thus you feel weightless.
 

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