Why use prop planes to hunt hurricanes?

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The discussion centers on the mechanical reasons for using propeller planes instead of jet planes to explore hurricanes. It touches on aspects such as aircraft speed, agility, cost, and operational capabilities in storm conditions.

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  • Some participants propose that prop planes are preferred because they fly more slowly and are more agile, allowing for better study of hurricanes.
  • Others suggest that the cost of prop planes makes them more accessible for scientists working with limited funding.
  • It is noted that prop planes can haul drogues for air sampling without emitting exhaust, which could affect measurements.
  • One participant mentions that certain jets have high stall speeds, making them less suitable for the rapidly changing conditions near storms.
  • A specific aircraft, the P-3 Orion, is highlighted for its long endurance in the air, which is advantageous for hurricane research.

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Participants express multiple competing views regarding the reasons for using prop planes, including agility, cost, and operational capabilities. The discussion remains unresolved as no consensus is reached.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions about aircraft performance in storm conditions and the specific operational requirements for hurricane research that are not fully explored.

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What is the mechanical reason why hurricanes are explored with propeller planes, and not jet planes? Is it because of the density of water in clouds therein?
 
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It's most likely because prop planes fly more slowly and are more agile, giving the investigators more time to study.

- Warren
 
Originally posted by chroot
It's most likely because prop planes fly more slowly and are more agile, giving the investigators more time to study.

- Warren

They are? I didn't know that,

I thought it was because prop planes are cheaper and easier for scientists to afford with their scanty grants.
 
Also they sometimes haul drogues behind to sample the air (drop size, etc.), and a prop plane doesn't spew a stream of partly oxidized kerosene out the back.
 
Originally posted by Chemicalsuperfreak
They are? I didn't know that,

I thought it was because prop planes are cheaper and easier for scientists to afford with their scanty grants.
It depends on the aircraft, but many jets have pretty high stall speeds -- and especially in the environment near a major storm, winds can quickly change direction and cause an aircraft to stall. By contrast, a Cessna with 40 degrees of flaps in the breeze can fly as slowly as about 35 miles per hour.

And yeah, they're a lot cheaper, too.

- Warren
 
A commonly used plane is the P-3 Orion, a turboprop. One benefit is it can remain airborne for 12 hours (without refueling). Thats considerably longer than a typical jet.
 
This is what happens when Jet plane tries its speed against a hail storm:
http://flightlevel.20megsfree.com/

This makes you think..
 
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i think i'd rather go 35mph than have that happen to my plane! oh my!
 

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