Finding Tension in a Submerged Ball Using Archimedes' Principle

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The discussion revolves around calculating the tension in a string supporting a submerged ball in a fluid, utilizing Archimedes' Principle. The problem involves understanding the forces acting on the ball, including gravitational and buoyant forces, while ensuring equilibrium is maintained.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the ball, including tension, weight, and buoyancy. There are attempts to express the relationship between these forces and to derive an equation for tension. Questions arise regarding the signs of the forces and the correct formulation of the equilibrium condition.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces involved and their directions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need for a consistent sign convention and the importance of vector directions in the equations. There is no explicit consensus yet on the correct formulation.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the ball would sink if not supported, and there is an emphasis on ensuring that the net force on the ball is zero. The discussion also reflects uncertainty about the role of the mass of the fluid displaced in the calculations.

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A ball of mass m_b and volume V is lowered on a string into a fluid of density p_f . Assume that the object would sink to the bottom if it were not supported by the string. What is the tension T in the string when the ball is fully submerged but not touching the bottom? Express your answer (T) in terms of the given quantities and g , the acceleration due to gravity.


Although the fact may be obscured by the presence of a liquid, the basic condition for equilibrium still holds: The net force on the ball must be zero.

Here are the steps that I went through:
Compute the mass m_f of the fluid displaced by the object when it is entirely submerged.
Express your answer in terms of p_f, v, m_b, and g.

m_f = p_f*V

f_buoyant = p_f* V * g

How do I get from here to finding the tension?

Thanks.
 
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As the problem states: The net force on the ball must be zero. So what are the forces acting on the ball? (Hint: Three forces act on the ball.)
 
Tension of string, m_b*g, and F_buoyancy?
 
Right. Now write the equation that relates them and solve for Tension.
 
So these 3 forces must add up to 0?
I don't think this is right (both the signs and equation I'm unsure of), but would it be

F_T + m_b*g + p_f* V * g (F_buo) = 0, where p_f = m_f/V

Then isolate F_T to solve for the answer?
 
Yes, the forces add to 0. But don't forget that forces are vectors: Direction matters! (Which way do the forces act?) Be sure to use a consistent sign convention: For example, let forces acting upward be positive; downward, negative. Then rewrite your equation.
 
The answer for F_T does not depend on m_f. What am I supposed to do now?

What I did

F_t - (m_b*g) + f_buo = 0

F_T = (m_b*g) - F_buo , F_buo = g*m_f

F_T = g(m_b - m_f)

but this is wrong
 
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Never mind; got it! Thanks.
 

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