Has anyone successfully created a power generator using a hot water source?

In summary: If so, what happened to it?This person is thinking of using a Rankine Cycle to create power from a warm water source. This system has been used in nuclear power stations, but for a different reason. The Rankine Cycle is a type of engine that uses a working fluid such as water, steam, or gas. The engine uses the vapor's pressure to create power. The hot water is free, and the person is not trying to create "extra" energy from heating water or anything. The efficiency of this system is low, because the temperature difference is very small. The person is thinking of using a hot spring the size of a 55 gallon barrel to create power.
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dr1ce
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Hi fellow science fans!

Say I have this 55-gallon drum full of water kept at an approximate constant temperature of 120° that I want to create power from. The air temperature is about 60°

I'm thinking a possible way to do this would be to submerge a closed vessel full of a solvent that will boil at say +/- 100° and using the vapor from this solvent to spin a turbine, like a traditional steam generator. I would then like to use the ambient air temperature to condense the solvent back to a liquid for recycling.

I imagine someone has tried something like this at some point in history.

Is there a name for this sort of generator?

Any idea what sort of solvent would have the characteristics I'm talking about at these temperatures?

Also, I should mention, the hot water is free and I'm not trying to create "extra" energy from heating water or anything. Basically, pretend I'm using a hot spring the size of a 55 gallon barrel.
 
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Hi dr1ce! http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5725/red5e5etimes5e5e45e5e25.gif

You plan to use the vapour's pressure? In which case, your working fluid will not boil until at a higher temperature while under pressure.

As an aside: this idea of an intermediate stage is used in nuclear power stations, but for a different reason: to put a stage of isolation between the fluid that circulates through the reactor (and which in the event of a problem could become radioactive) and the "outside world" of the steam turbine generators, so any outside leaks are of a hopefully uncontaminated fluid.
 
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Exactly the info I was looking for!

Much Thanks...
 
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At this stage it may be worth while asking how much power you would be expecting. Is this a fun project 'to show it can be done' or a serious attempt to harvest some free energy? Your problem here is that the temperature difference is very small (on the thermodynamic scale) and that means very low efficiency.

What is the power source that keeps your drum at 120°(F?)?. If you are paying for the energy to do the heating then it doesn't make sense to try to use this warm water as an energy source. Better to insulate it and use the electricity you saved. But this may be a misplaced voice of reason and NO FUN AT ALL :rolleyes:

I have seen a number of model Stirling Engines, working with pretty small temperature differences. There are construction kits available for making them. They do little more than manage to turn their own mechanism but the do prove a point.
 
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dr1ce said:
Hi fellow science fans!
Nanotechnology to the rescue. http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/power-felt-electricity-generating-fabric-could-one-day-power-iphone-with-body-heat/
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Nanotechnology to the rescue. http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/power-felt-electricity-generating-fabric-could-one-day-power-iphone-with-body-heat/

No mention of actual power output from this device, of course. Whilst there is clearly some waste heat from your body, you still need a cold sink. What form would this take? A large radiator strapped to your back? How about on a sunny day?
I could be eating my words in a few years' time, I admit but, as my favourite song goes - "it's the numbers that count".
 
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Based on the 120 degree hot-side temperature (I assume you mean fahrenheit), and the 60 degree cold-side temp, the maximum efficiency you can attain is 10.4%. That assumes you're able to maintain both teperatures fairly well.
 
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Hi all! Just wondering what ever became of the idea. Did you ever build one?
 

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