Interval of convergence problem

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The discussion revolves around determining the interval of convergence for the series defined by the sum from n=1 to infinity of (n!*x^n)/(n^n). The original poster has identified an interval of convergence of -e < x < e and is now focused on testing the convergence of the series at the endpoints.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the ratio test to the series at the endpoints but finds it inconclusive. They seek guidance on alternative tests for convergence or divergence.
  • Some participants suggest using Stirling's approximation to analyze the series further.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of Stirling's approximation and whether the reasoning regarding divergence is sound.
  • Questions arise about the behavior of the error in Stirling's approximation as n approaches infinity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring different approaches to test the convergence of the series at the endpoints. Some have provided insights regarding Stirling's approximation, while others are questioning the validity of the reasoning presented. There is no explicit consensus on the conclusions drawn, but the discussion is progressing with various lines of inquiry being examined.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework problem, focusing on convergence tests and the implications of approximations. The original poster has expressed uncertainty about the application of the ratio test and the behavior of terms in the series.

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The original series is the sum from n=1 to infinity of (n!*x^n)/(n^n)

I used a ratio test to find that the interval of convergence is -e < x < e

But now I need to test the endpoints, which means I need to find if the following two series converge:

sum from n=1 to infinity of (n!*e^n)/(n^n)
sum from n=1 to infinity of (n!*(-e)^n)/(n^n)

I started with the first one, because the second is just an alternating version of it (right?) so if I proved absolute convergence I wouldn't have to do the second one as well. Here is where I am having problems though, I can't figure out a test that would prove divergence or convergence for the first one. I tried a ratio test, but I get an answer of 1 (inconclusive), which makes sense since I used a ratio to find the interval of convergence. Can someone point me in the right direction?
 
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Did you try applying Stirling's approximation to this one too?
 
Don't know what that is but I'll look it up in a sec...
 
Ahh that works out nicely...

n!=~n^n*e^-n*(2*n*pi)^(1/2)

which leaves me with...

sum from n=1 to infinity of (2*n*pi)^(1/2)
and
sum from n=1 to infinity of (-1)^n*(2*n*pi)^(1/2)

and in both cases the "infiniteth" term doesn't go to zero, so both diverge... is my reasoning sound?
 
Is there a way to show that the error in stirling's approximation goes to zero as n goes to infinity?
 
I had assumed Stirling's approximation when applying the ratio test -- that's usually the only way I get e's out of it.

There are indeed more detailed forms of Stirling's approximation, but now that you know it diverges, maybe there's an easier way to show the terms don't converge to zero?
 
Oh, BTW, the error doesn't go to zero, but the relative error does. All you really care about, though, is getting a lower bound, so it doesn't matter if there's any sort of convergence, just that you have a useful inequality.

Mathworld or Wikipedia probably have it.
 
kk thanks :smile:
 

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