How Do You Calculate the Energy of an Alpha Particle in an Ionization Chamber?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the energy of an alpha particle in an ionization chamber, specifically in the context of nuclear waste engineering. The original poster presents a problem involving the activity of a radioactive source and the resulting saturation current in the chamber, seeking guidance on how to approach the calculation.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the current generated in the ionization chamber and the number of ion pairs created by alpha particles. There are attempts to derive equations relating the energy of the alpha particles to the current and the number of ion pairs produced. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made in the calculations and the interpretation of the results, particularly concerning the negative value encountered in the calculations.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the equations and relationships involved in the problem. Some participants offer alternative perspectives on how to approach the calculations, while others express confusion about specific steps or assumptions. Guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of the source strength and the calculation of the number of alpha particles per second.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework problem, which may limit the information available for solving the problem. There is a focus on ensuring that the calculations align with the physical principles involved in ionization and charge flow.

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I'm having a problem on a homework problem that I have for one of my nuclear waste engineering courses. I'm not exactly sure where to start on it. I've been looking at different resources and I haven't found anything that I can use. The question is as follows:

Estimate the energy in MeV of an alpha particle from a source of activity 1.0 microcuries which creates a saturation current of 1.0*10^(-9) A in an inonisation chamber. Assume e = 1.6*10^(-19) C, 1 Ci = 3.7*10^(10) disintegrations per sec. and 30 eV is needed to produce on ion pair.

I'm not sure where to start on this problem, so if there are a few equations out there that someone could let me know about, I would be greatly appreciative.
 
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gump said:
Estimate the energy in MeV of an alpha particle from a source of activity 1.0 microcuries which creates a saturation current of 1.0*10^(-9) A in an inonisation chamber. Assume e = 1.6*10^(-19) C, 1 Ci = 3.7*10^(10) disintegrations per sec. and 30 eV is needed to produce on ion pair.

I'm not sure where to start on this problem, so if there are a few equations out there that someone could let me know about, I would be greatly appreciative.
I'll take a stab at it. The alpha particle shoots through a cloud of atoms and knocks electrons off a gas molecule. The issue is: how many does it knock off? If you knew that, you would know its energy (ie. n=E/30 eV).

The energy needed to ionise one molecule (creating an ion pair) is 30 eV. When this occurs you get a 'current' because the electrons move away from the +ions. The current, in this case, is the result of all the alpha particles being released from the source/second knocking off n electrons each. The current is the rate of charge flow. In this case, it is the number of ions (in coulombs - ie ne) produced per second.

If all of this is correct (and I am not guaranteeing it is, but it makes sense to me) what is the equation for n? where N is the number of alpha particles released from the source/second, n is the number of ion pairs created per alpha particle, e is the charge of one electron or ion in Coulombs, I =1.0E-9 Amperes. Once you find n then you can find E.

AM
 
okay... so this is where I'm at so far.

Since we know that the current is caused by the number of ion pairs generated per unit time, and I = Q/t, where Q = amount of charge (e = 1.6x10-19 C) and t = time, the time is 1.6x10-10 sec.

Using the equation (n(ion) /t) = (E(a)n(a) / 30 eV) where nion = number of electron pairs, t = time, E(a) = Energy of an alpha particle, and n(a) = number of alpha decays per second we can solve for E(a).

E(a) = 30 eV (1 ion pair) / n(a)(1.6x10-10 sec.)

Since we know that n(a) = a – nion where a = source strength, we get n(a) = (1.0x10-6 Ci – 3.7x1010 dis./sec.) = -3.7x1010 dis./sec.

This negative number is really confusing me, and I'm not sure where I'm going wrong. Do I have one of my equations messed up? or am I going wrong somewhere else?
 
gump said:
Since we know that the current is caused by the number of ion pairs generated per unit time, and I = Q/t, where Q = amount of charge (e = 1.6x10-19 C) and t = time, the time is 1.6x10-10 sec.
I don't follow you there. Why not use seconds?
Using the equation (n(ion) /t) = (E(a)n(a) / 30 eV) where nion = number of electron pairs, t = time, E(a) = Energy of an alpha particle, and n(a) = number of alpha decays per second we can solve for E(a).
Why not just state the equation for I and worry about E later? I get:
[itex]I = dQ/dt = nNe[/itex] where n is number of ion pairs per alpha, N is the number of alpha particles per second and e is the current created per collision.

When you get n, you can find E = 30n.
Since we know that n(a) = a – nion where a = source strength, we get n(a) = (1.0x10-6 Ci – 3.7x1010 dis./sec.) = -3.7x1010 dis./sec.
I think you meant [itex]1.0E-6 * 3.7E10 = 3.7E4[/itex] dis./sec. That is N (no. of alpha particles/sec).

With that you should have no difficulty finding n using n = I/Ne Then find E.

AM
 
Thanks for your help guys. It now makes sense. I really appreciate it.
 

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