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Mar31-12, 10:47 AM   #1
 

binomial theorem to prove


1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

(1+n)^n≥ 5/2* n^n- 1/2* n^(n-1) for n≥2

2. Relevant equations
i know I have to use this formula
(1+x)^n=1+nx/1!+(n(n-1) x^2)/2!+⋯

3. The attempt at a solution

And you take x=n from my original inequality but after that I have no clue
(1+n)^n=1+n/1! n+(n(n-1) n^2)/2!+⋯
but it seems very complicated !!
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Mar31-12, 03:31 PM   #2
 
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Quote by rohan03 View Post
1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

(1+n)^n≥ 5/2* n^n- 1/2* n^(n-1) for n≥2

2. Relevant equations
i know I have to use this formula
(1+x)^n=1+nx/1!+(n(n-1) x^2)/2!+⋯

3. The attempt at a solution

And you take x=n from my original inequality but after that I have no clue
(1+n)^n=1+n/1! n+(n(n-1) n^2)/2!+⋯
but it seems very complicated !!
Since n is a positive integer, that binomial expansion has finitely many terms. And since ##n\ge 2## the expansion has at least 3 terms. Try keeping just the last three terms (which you didn't write down) because they are the ones with the higher powers of n.
Mar31-12, 03:42 PM   #3
 
Will do that and write my results here. What I don't know is how to get last terms power to n-1 ?
Mar31-12, 03:42 PM   #4
 

binomial theorem to prove


I'll be doing this tomorrow so please check ur post.
Apr1-12, 09:43 AM   #5
 
(1+n)^n=1+n/1 n+(n(n-1) n^2)/2!+(n(n-1) 〖(n-2)n〗^3)/3!…
Apr1-12, 04:06 PM   #6
 
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(1+n)^n=1+n/1 n+(n(n-1) n^2)/2!+(n(n-1) 〖(n-2)n〗^3)/3!…
Do you know the binomial expansion for ##(a+b)^n##? It doesn't end with a "...". You need to look at the last three terms, not the first terms.
Apr2-12, 01:50 AM   #7
 
if I use just the last three term I do get the result- so is it ok for me to just use last three terms ignoring first few terms- if yes than I have resolved so simple problem- which looked very complicated in the first place- Thank you
Apr2-12, 11:48 AM   #8
 
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if I use just the last three term I do get the result- so is it ok for me to just use last three terms ignoring first few terms- if yes than I have resolved so simple problem- which looked very complicated in the first place- Thank you
Yes. That is why there is a ##\ge## sign in the statement of the problem. Leaving out the other terms makes it smaller.
Apr2-12, 11:56 AM   #9
 
thank you- this forum is blessing to someone relatively new to pure maths.
May21-12, 07:21 AM   #10
 
I'm confused.

Which binomial expansion should I be using for this question and why?

Is it binomial expansion for (a+b)^n or (1+x)^n
Jun12-12, 08:42 AM   #11
 
what do you mean last 3 terms? if its infinite it wouldn't have any last term?
Jun12-12, 11:53 AM   #12
 
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Quote by fireychariot View Post
what do you mean last 3 terms? if its infinite it wouldn't have any last term?
##n## is a positive integer so the binomial expansion is finite:$$
(1+n)^n =\sum_{k=0}^n \binom n k 1^{n-k} n^k$$The last three terms are for ##k=n,n-1,n-2##.
Jun13-12, 06:35 AM   #13
 
Thanks for that. I'm having a blonde moment though when working out the coefficients. I know you use n!/k!(n-k)! However I am little confused when I input for say k = n-1 I get n!/(n-1)!(n-n-1)! How do I expand on this? Many thanks.
Jun13-12, 10:15 AM   #14
 
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Is it binomial expansion for (a+b)^n or (1+x)^n
They're from the same formula. Set a=1, b=x.
Jun13-12, 10:22 AM   #15
 
Quote by fireychariot View Post
Thanks for that. I'm having a blonde moment though when working out the coefficients. I know you use n!/k!(n-k)! However I am little confused when I input for say k = n-1 I get n!/(n-1)!(n-n-1)! How do I expand on this? Many thanks.
A factorial for natural numbers is the product of all consecutive integers from 1 upto n. That is,

[tex]n! = n\cdot (n-1) \cdot (n-2) ........ 2\cdot 1[/tex]

Use this definition in both the numerator and denominator of the expression. What do you get?



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I'm confused.

Which binomial expansion should I be using for this question and why?

Is it binomial expansion for (a+b)^n or (1+x)^n
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Jun13-12, 02:10 PM   #16
 
so say i was doing k = n-1

n(n-1)/n(n-1)(0)! = n(n-1)/0! = n(n-1)? have I dont that correct??
Jun13-12, 03:02 PM   #17
 
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so say i was doing k = n-1

n(n-1)/n(n-1)(0)! = n(n-1)/0! = n(n-1)? have I dont that correct??
No.$$
\binom n {n-1}=\frac {n!}{(n-1)!(n-(n-1))!}=\frac {n!}{(n-1)!(n-n+1)!}
=n$$
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