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## Gen IV Nuclear Plants

The new Generation-IV nuclear power plants under consideration by the DOE will encase their fuel in graphite, rather than zerconium, for safety, and that seems a great advantage. But the DOE has also demanded that this generation of power plant must produce Hydrogen for fuel cells as a byproduct. The current front-runner in the competition is predicted to produce about 10 tons per hour. This could be very usefull on a number of fronts.

Does anyone think these new designs will be safe enough and usefull enough to warrant their construction? Would you live near one?
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 Originally posted by LURCH The new Generation-IV nuclear power plants under consideration by the DOE will encase their fuel in graphite, rather than zerconium, for safety, and that seems a great advantage. But the DOE has also demanded that this generation of power plant must produce Hydrogen for fuel cells as a byproduct. The current front-runner in the competition is predicted to produce about 10 tons per hour. This could be very usefull on a number of fronts. Does anyone think these new designs will be safe enough and usefull enough to warrant their construction? Would you live near one?
Iam very sceptical in question of new type NP construction. Advanced reactors are known 40 years and only rest in designers offices. They are too expensive, dangerous, unproved , say goverments. Safety at first! Safety of no-problem in next elections, of course. Only new miles of safety walls and parallel data lines will be builded in current NPs. Only developing countries as Russia or China have some advance in realization of the problematic projects. In Europe, USA or Japan no chance! Its crazy that iranian Busehr nuclear plant will be most modern in whole world, if completed[:)] How many thousands people must die in growing greenhouse catastrophes?!

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 Originally posted by LURCH Does anyone think these new designs will be safe enough and usefull enough to warrant their construction? Would you live near one?
Well I think existing reactors, none of which are less than 20 years old, are plenty safe and useful. Newer designs are even better. Unfortunately the US will never build another nuclear power plant without a major change in public opinion or a strong-willed president.

And yes, I'd even move in next to Three Mile Island.

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## Gen IV Nuclear Plants

I live in Spain. Here the "nuclear energy philosophy" is completely different, the people are rejected about this type of energy. But we don't take into account that rennewable energy is not enough developed. So the goverment is pushed to disable the nuclear powerplants without another way of energy, because of people that tends to communism ideas (SURE it doesn't exist in US).
Then, our resources of energy has been redirected to gas turbines (combined cycle), because it is evident that solar or wind energy are not able to bear the spanish demand.
I am in favour of nuclear powerplants IF there is nothing better. They possibilities the steady state in the energy flow, and it's correspond with the demand now.
Hopely, we are waiting the ITER to be installed in our country (You must support us because of the support (excesive) of our president Aznar to Bush!!).
See you soon.

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I thought I would post in this old thread so we can see what has changed in the years since this thread was originally posted.

From Russ Waters

 Well I think existing reactors, none of which are less than 20 years old, are plenty safe and useful. Newer designs are even better. Unfortunately the US will never build another nuclear power plant without a major change in public opinion or a strong-willed president.
Here is a press release from Westinghouse dated 1/5/2009.

It is for two AP1000 units to be installed in the USA.

http://westinghousenuclear.mediaroom...p?s=43&item=39

The AP1000 is listed a generation 3+ on the Westinghouse site. I am not sure if that makes a generation 4 or just and advanced generation 3.

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 Quote by russ_watters Unfortunately the US will never build another nuclear power plant without a major change in public opinion or a strong-willed president.
Eh? You are behind on the times. Multiple utilities are in the early stages of building new reactors that should be on line before the end of the next decade.

What they will do with their spent fuel is anybody's guess though :)
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